NCOUGHMAN Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Darbsk said: Dalton would have been my preferred choice if I'm honest. Winston I just don't like, as a QB he plays situationally unaware and there's something about him that just seems 'off' 😀 Cam I assume would have wanted a chance to start and I think he wouldn't be suited to our scheme which just suits Carr better. If he was available I would say that Bridgewater may have been a good fit. I can imagine Gruden thinking a lot of Taysom Hill too. I honestly thought Winston could thrive behind carr and learn how to be more selective with his throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Darbsk said: Dalton would have been my preferred choice if I'm honest. Winston I just don't like, as a QB he plays situationally unaware and there's something about him that just seems 'off' 😀 Cam I assume would have wanted a chance to start and I think he wouldn't be suited to our scheme which just suits Carr better. If he was available I would say that Bridgewater may have been a good fit. I can imagine Gruden thinking a lot of Taysom Hill too. I agree with most of this and from a football prospective of this season Dalton would have been the best fit (I am not including Cam or TB because they are both starters and clearly wanted to be so wherever they signed). I'm pretty sure i have made my point clear on how I feel about Ol' crab legs lol Dalton is 32 and has no upside left but would be our best chance to win games this season if Carr is to go down. MM at 26 still has upside if his issues can be corrected, I am not sure they can, as he has a noodle arm and a strong arm can't be coached, just like trying to get someone to run a 4.2 who isn't physically capable. If Gruden can somehow "fix" MM's issues we could parlay that into a high end draft pick. Just food for thought but I think MM will need to showcase his skills in the preseason which we unfortunately don't have this year.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: I honestly thought Winston could thrive behind carr and learn how to be more selective with his throws. I understand the optimism with Winston and he has natural talent no doubt but I just dont think he's mentally capable of being that guy. I guess any number of coaches would think they can 'fix' him, its kind of a coaches vice I guess in that they're always looking for that redemption project 😀😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I agree with most of this and from a football prospective of this season Dalton would have been the best fit (I am not including Cam or TB because they are both starters and clearly wanted to be so wherever they signed). I'm pretty sure i have made my point clear on how I feel about Ol' crab legs lol Dalton is 32 and has no upside left but would be our best chance to win games this season if Carr is to go down. MM at 26 still has upside if his issues can be corrected, I am not sure they can, as he has a noodle arm and a strong arm can't be coached, just like trying to get someone to run a 4.2 who isn't physically capable. If Gruden can somehow "fix" MM's issues we could parlay that into a high end draft pick. Just food for thought but I think MM will need to showcase his skills in the preseason which we unfortunately don't have this year.  Curious how far do you think carr can throw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Darbsk said: I understand the optimism with Winston and he has natural talent no doubt but I just dont think he's mentally capable of being that guy. I guess any number of coaches would think they can 'fix' him, its kind of a coaches vice I guess in that they're always looking for that redemption project 😀😀 Meh he’s young and in the perfect situation in NO We’ll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Curious how far do you think carr can throw? The throw to TY Hilton was 60 yards on a dime and it was a beauty. My guess is 70ish accurately. Oh what a talented WR will do Do you think Carr lacks arm strength? LOL Edited August 22, 2020 by Frankie2Gunz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Meh he’s young and in the perfect situation in NO We’ll see The fact that you like Winston tells me a lot about your ability to evaluate QB's. Winston is about as dull as they come, he clearly lacks the mental processing ability to ever be an above average QB. Weren't you the guy calling for us to get rid of Carr for ol' Crab legs SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 40 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: The fact that you like Winston tells me a lot about your ability to evaluate QB's. Winston is about as dull as they come, he clearly lacks the mental processing ability to ever be an above average QB. Weren't you the guy calling for us to get rid of Carr for ol' Crab legs SMH Nope I wanted to draft a qb but the packers got him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: The throw to TY Hilton was 60 yards on a dime and it was a beauty. My guess is 70ish accurately. Oh what a talented WR will do Do you think Carr lacks arm strength? LOL That video is from 3 years ago  and yes I question carrs arm strength especially with deep passes.  but we will see cause ruggs can fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, NCOUGHMAN said: That video is from 3 years ago  and yes I question carrs arm strength especially with deep passes.  but we will see cause ruggs can fly So what? Are you implying that at 29 years old Carr's arm strength has severely diminished???? LOL. You are basing this off of what exactly? Let me guess, no facts just your opinion SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Frankie2Gunz said: So what? Are you implying that at 29 years old Carr's arm strength has severely diminished???? LOL. You are basing this off of what exactly? Let me guess, no facts just your opinion SMH When you’re a starting qb and have to bring up throws from 3 years to show his arm strength is that’s kinda suspect. Show me something recent? anyways you say 70 accurately  I say 40 yards accurately 50 pure chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 50 yard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: 50 yard Do you even understand football? What is the point you're trying to make from that video? That Carr put a lot of air under a hail mary? You do understand the point of a hail mary correct? Put air under it and throw it up for grabs.... He did exactly what he was supposed to do. I like how your opinion is that Carr cant make the throw anymore that he made to Hilton. No facts, just your worthless opinion that is based on nothing LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Do you even understand football? What is the point you're trying to make from that video? That Carr put a lot of air under a hail mary? You do understand the point of a hail mary correct? Put air under it and throw it up for grabs.... He did exactly what he was supposed to do. I like how your opinion is that Carr cant make the throw anymore that he made to Hilton. No facts, just your worthless opinion that is based on nothing LOL Well you find a better example then that’s recent.... I’ll wait my opinion is worthless lol ouch lol   Edited August 22, 2020 by NCOUGHMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Well you find a better example then that’s recent.... I’ll wait How about you show me a throw over 50 yards where Carr clearly lacks the arm strength to accurately make it, that is what you're implying correct? I showed you a video that he can throw a 60 yard dime.... I'll wait for something other than our opinion. Edited August 22, 2020 by Frankie2Gunz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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