Frankie2Gunz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: For anyone who measures quarterbacks in win and losses can never get around this His posts make zero sense and that is why he refuses to answer the question. I just want to make it clear that what he is saying is that Sean McVey has no idea what he is doing at @NYRaider has a greater understanding than McVey about what makes a good NFL QB. That is how ludicrous his posts are lol Edited June 14, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I just want to make it clear that what he is saying is that Sean McVey has no idea what he is doing at @NYRaider has a greater understanding than McVey about what makes a good NFL QB. That is how ludicrous his posts are lol What has been good about Derek Carr's career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: What has been good about Derek Carr's career? Answer my question first and I’ll give you multiple examples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Answer my question first and I’ll give you multiple examples! Never being top 10 in stats and averaging 5 wins per season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Never being top 10 in stats and averaging 5 wins per season? I'll give you a little teaser. 3X Pro Bowler and only 1 player in NFL history had more TD passes their first 2 seasons... Dan Marino. Lol answer my question and I’ll give you more examples 😂 Edited June 14, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I'll give you a little teaser. 3X Pro Bowler and only 1 player in NFL history had more TD passes their first 2 seasons... Dan Marino. Lol answer my question and I’ll give you more examples 😂 Most losses through 7 seasons is the only record Carr has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Most losses through 7 seasons is the only record Carr has Still not going to answer my question. I wonder why that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Just now, Frankie2Gunz said: Still not going to answer my question. I wonder why that is? What was the question again? I got dazed and confused looking at the box score from the Atlanta game week 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Carr has never put up elite stats or won, so what else do you judge him on? Well, you seem sure Brady alone elevated the previously 7-9 Buccaneers. Carr arguably elevates our 3-4 win worthy garbage roster to 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 records. No QB alone is making an 8, 9+ win difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Well, you seem sure Brady alone elevated the previously 7-9 Buccaneers. Carr arguably elevates our 3-4 win worthy garbage roster to 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 records. No QB alone is making an 8, 9+ win difference. In the 7 years before Carr arrived we averaged 5.4 wins per year, with Carr we've averaged 6.7 wins per year. #Elevation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, NYRaider said: What was the question again? I got dazed and confused looking at the box score from the Atlanta game week 12 Detroit is an even bigger dumpster fire then the Raiders. Haha 100 percent your subjective opinion, which is clearly flawed. Carr has been surrounded by plenty of offensive talent at different stages of his career and has never been a prolific passer. Another one of your worthless opinion pieces. Do you care to name these offensive talents you speak of? The only elite talent Carr has had is Waller and he is a TE. His WR's have been amongst the worst in the NFL YOY and played with a D that was ranked worst D of the decade. https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2020/06/18/espn-names-raiders-as-worst-defense-of-decade/ You still have not answered my questions as to where Stafford fits into the your QB rankings based on your metrics. Your prior posts have have been using statistics and W/L to try to prove your point, now I ask you where Stafford fits based on your metrics and you bring your opinion. Based on your metrics your saying Sean McVey is a fool for trading 2 1st round picks and a 26 year old Goff for a 33 year old Stafford. I just want to make sure I am understanding your thought process.. If I am missing something please elaborate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I'm not even going back and forth anymore, just pre order my Spencer Rattler jersey. Lmk what size you guys need @ronjon1990 @Jeremy408 @Frankie2Gunz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I'm not even going back and forth anymore, just pre order my Spencer Rattler jersey. Lmk what size you guys need @ronjon1990 @Jeremy408 @Frankie2Gunz Lol exactly what I thought. Avoiding my question because your posts logically make zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Lol exactly what I thought. Avoiding my question because your posts logically make zero sense. Spencer Rattler is the Raiders QB in 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Spencer Rattler is the Raiders QB in 2022 More money well spent. You can put in in your "future Raider QB pile" you've been dreaming about over the last three seasons. It can go right next to Ol' Crab Legs, Fitztrash, Foles, T. Taylor and Tua, all QB's that uneducated fans have wanted on here over Carr... Your Raider Brady, Rogers, Wilson and Watson jerseys are now worthless and soaked in tears... Edited June 14, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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