NYRaider Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Sure. I respect it. He has definitely opened himself up for some criticism. I have no idea how he missed a few of those throws in the giants game. He can hit insane throws and then misses a few ducks. Derek Carr is 1-7 at Kansas City and we've lost like 80% of cold weather games. The path through the AFC for the foreseeable future will require us being able to go on the road in the cold weather and win in the playoffs. Is it reasonable to expect that Carr at this stage of his career is going to just become a different player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Again I'm down but I'm also keen on the coach/GM being right. If we get the right guys, I'm happy with whatever they want to do. If the team commits to Mike Mayock returning and invests top dollar into Carr we will be mediocre for the foreseeable future. I'd personally rather swing on a QB with elite upside then sit in purgatory with Carr. If we hit we may have a superstar if we miss we'll win 4-5 games instead of 7-8, are those extra couple of wins really worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 And also what QB in NFL history has received a 2nd major contract extension without winning MVP, making the Super Bowl, or making a deep run in the playoffs? Matt Stafford with the Lions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Peaked my head into Raiders Twitter and got Carr stans crapping on Rich Gannon. Cult like activities cause Gannon said wins period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Peaked my head into Raiders Twitter and got Carr stans crapping on Rich Gannon. Cult like activities cause Gannon said wins period. The Carrdashian's on twitter are a different breed. Rich Gannon was the MVP and led us to the Super Bowl, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mct288 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: The Carrdashian's on twitter are a different breed. Rich Gannon was the MVP and led us to the Super Bowl, lol. Do you ever peep in Raiders Reddit? It’s basically a Derek Carr sub. Anything short of unwavering support for the guy is considered pure hatred. It is completely tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Peaked my head into Raiders Twitter and got Carr stans crapping on Rich Gannon. Cult like activities cause Gannon said wins period. Carr Stan's or anyone else..... Why would anyone crap on Gannon? That's just uncalled for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, mct288 said: Do you ever peep in Raiders Reddit? It’s basically a Derek Carr sub. Anything short of unwavering support for the guy is considered pure hatred. It is completely tiresome. I try to avoid talking about football with other Raiders fans outside of this forum as much as possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Carr Stan's or anyone else..... Why would anyone crap on Gannon? That's just uncalled for Pretty hilarious thread actually Gannon is that man. Said wins are the most important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Pretty hilarious thread actually Gannon is that man. Said wins are the most important. Uhoh lol many here don’t like that w/l qb judging thing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Uhoh lol many here don’t like that w/l qb judging thing lol It's because they know more about football then former league MVP and Super Bowl participant QB, Rich Gannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Uhoh lol many here don’t like that w/l qb judging thing lol Don’t even need to read the tweets from the Super Pro Carr clan . I’m guessing a lot of 5 int in Super Bowl respondes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: It's because they know more about football then former league MVP and Super Bowl participant QB, Rich Gannon. If a poster says it then it “you don’t know football” “stupidest response ever” etc etc But then rich says it …… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I agree with Rich. W/L is a QB stat.... come at me. The good ones always have their team in a position to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, big_palooka said: I agree with Rich. W/L is a QB stat.... come at me. The good ones always have their team in a position to win. You are right. So is @NCOUGHMAN. But I can't think of many teams run worse than ours. Cowherd is a prick but his stafford detroit analogy isn't far off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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