Packerraymond Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Could have been partially injury related. Who knows. But Lazard clearly had the trust of Rodgers when Rodgers asked that he get a chance, maybe it was the Philly game. As far as getting more snaps? Maybe another factor was run blocking. And I only say that because Kumerow and Lazard were amazing run blockers. Many times Kumerow stuck his nose in there as a lead blocker. Guess I don't know if MVS is much of a run blocker or not. But Kumerow and Lazard were very good at it. If you're playing Lazard/EQ quality athletes in there over MVS because they're bigger and block better, OK, I can accept it. If you're playing Jake Kumerow's for that reason, you aren't going to last long as a HC in today's NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: yup and MVS improved on that front as the season rolled along. He had a key block on the Jones run for a TD vs the vikes in minny Could be, not disputing that at all. But Kumerow scored a 91.2 on PFF. Allison was 77.8. Lazard was 72.9. MVS was 61.4. Adams was 53.5 for scale. The only guy better (than Kumerow) was someone on Detroit who had a whopping 67 offensive snaps. For scale, Kumerow had 367 snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: If you're playing Lazard/EQ quality athletes in there over MVS because they're bigger and block better, OK, I can accept it. If you're playing Jake Kumerow's for that reason, you aren't going to last long as a HC in today's NFL. When Kumerow became more of a lead blocker, that was certainly by design. No issue with that on those kinds of plays. Outside of those few plays? Totally agree. Me? I'm just going to tip my hat to Kumerow for finding a way to get on the field and kind of carve out a little niche for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, vegas492 said: When Kumerow became more of a lead blocker, that was certainly by design. No issue with that on those kinds of plays. Outside of those few plays? Totally agree. Me? I'm just going to tip my hat to Kumerow for finding a way to get on the field and kind of carve out a little niche for himself. Can't tip your hand though and have a WR you use primarily for running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 If I had like 18 wishes I think I would wish kumerow out of existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, skibrett15 said: If I had like 18 wishes I think I would wish kumerow out of existence. Is it his teeth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, skibrett15 said: If I had like 18 wishes I think I would wish kumerow out of existence. Bruh, same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Is it bad to act like MVS is a useful player? Yes. I think we should change the thread title to "Packers 2020 WR Corpse" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Could be, not disputing that at all. But Kumerow scored a 91.2 on PFF. Allison was 77.8. Lazard was 72.9. MVS was 61.4. Adams was 53.5 for scale. The only guy better (than Kumerow) was someone on Detroit who had a whopping 67 offensive snaps. For scale, Kumerow had 367 snaps. Assuming these are blocking grades? If so, any chance you can pull Funchess' from previous seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Can't tip your hand though and have a WR you use primarily for running. Which could be why MLF talked about getting Kumerow more opportunities in the passing game. Which. Does. Not. Excite. Me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Assuming these are blocking grades? If so, any chance you can pull Funchess' from previous seasons? Yes. They are. And I can. 60.6. Just below MVS in terms of run blocking grade. Though, it is only on 36 snaps. Doesn't seem like I can go back to past years, either. Edited May 13, 2020 by vegas492 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyToThump Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 We should just put Kumerow in at fullback. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Yes. They are. And I can. 60.6. Just below MVS in terms of run blocking grade. Though, it is only on 36 snaps. Doesn't seem like I can go back to past years, either. thanks - and bummer - I knew his 2019 stats wouldn't be worthwhile, was hoping past years were available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushmyhair Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 6 hours ago, JBURGE said: I thought these players aren't going to be eligible. Does their status in the NCAA not have to change in order for them to be eligible for the Supplemental Draft? I suppose they could just drop all of their courses? I'm not sure how it works, but I know players can't just change their mind after the draft and enter the supplemental one If he were somehow eligible no doubt he will have a ton of round 2 claims on him, and doubt we would get him for you guys, he'd be worth a 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, brushmyhair said: for you guys, he'd be worth a 1st No, he wouldnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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