Vikes_Bolts1228 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I dunno. I think this is the year Mannion finally beats out Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbroy45 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 QB (2): Cousins, Browning RB/FB (4): Cook, Boone, Abdullah, Ham (Boone traded for 2021 6 on cutdown day) WR (6): Thielen, Jefferson, Sharpe, Johnson, Davis, Beebe TE (3): Rudolph, Smith Jr., Conklin OT (4): Reiff, O'Neill, Cleveland, Hill OG (4): Udoh, Samia, Elflein, Collins C (2): Bradbury, Jones DE (5): Hunter, Odenigbo, Wonnum, Willekes, Zettel DT (5): Pierce, Mata'afa, Lynch, Watts, Holmes LB (5): Barr, Kendricks, Wilson, Dye, Gates CB (6): Gladney, Hughes, Dantzler, Boyd, Hill, Clark SAF (4): Smith, Harris, Hand, Mettelus K (1): Bailey P (1): Colquitt LS (1): Cutting Practice squad QB Stanley RB Brooks-James WR Osborn WR Shane Zylstra TE Griffin-Stewart OL Hinton OL Brandel OL Lacina DT Moa CB Sayles SAF Cole SAF Dorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepride323 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Vikes_Bolts1228 said: I dunno. I think this is the year Mannion finally beats out Kirk. Mannion is the goat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 QB (2): Cousins, Stanley RB/FB (4): Cook, Mattison, Boone, Ham WR (6): Thielen, Jefferson, Sharpe, Johnson, Davis, Osborn TE (4): Rudolph, Smith Jr., Conklin, Griffin-Stewart OT (4): Reiff, O'Neill, Cleveland, Hill OG (3): Udoh, Samia, Collins, Hinton C (2): Bradbury, Jones DE (5): Hunter, Griffen, Odenigbo, Wonnum, Willekes, DT (5): Pierce, Johnson, Lynch, Watts, Holmes LB (5): Barr, Kendricks, Wilson, Gedeon, Dye CB (6): Kirkpatrick, Hughes, Hill, Gladney, Dantzler, Boyd SAF (4): Smith, Harris, Hand, Mettelus K (1): Bailey P (1): Colquitt LS (1): Cutting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 QB(2): Kirk Cousins, Sean Mannion HB/FB(5): Dalvin Cook, Alexander Mattison, Mike Boone, Ameer Abdullah, CJ Ham WR (5): Adam Thielen, Justin Jefferson, Tajae Sharpe, Olabisi Johnson, Alexander Hollins TE (4): Kyle Rudolph, Irv Smith, Jr, Tyler Conklin, Brandon Dillon OL (9): Riley Reiff, Brian O'Neill, Garrett Bradbury, Dru Samia, Dakota Dozier, Brett Jones, Ezra Cleveland, Rashod Hill, Oli Udoh DL (10): Danielle Hunter, Ifeadi Odenigbo, Shamar Stephen, Michael Pierce, Eddie Yarbrough, Armon Watts, Jalyn Holmes, Kenny Willekes, DJ Wonnum, James Lynch LB (5): Anthony Barr, Eric Kendricks, Eric Wilson, Cameron Smith, Troy Dye CB (6): Mike Hughes, Holton Hill, Jeff Gladney, Kris Boyd, Cameron Dantzler, Nate Meadors S (4): Harrison Smith, Anthony Harris, Harrison Hand, Brian Cole II Specialists (3): Dan Bailey, Britton Colquitt, Austin Cutting Notable Cuts: Chad Beebe, Jaleel Johnson, Anthony Zettel, Ben Gedeon, Hercules Mata'afa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byuvike88 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 19 hours ago, RpMc said: Underperforming, last year of his deal - it wouldn’t shock me. I'd easily take him over Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, byuvike88 said: I'd easily take him over Stephen I read all the arguments back and forth previously, and I'm sorry, Stephen is light-years better than Johnson, who has been largely non-existent since he came into the league. He's certainly not great...I'd put him in the same category as @Krauser did, average. But Johnson isn't anywhere near even average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byuvike88 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, swede700 said: I read all the arguments back and forth previously, and I'm sorry, Stephen is light-years better than Johnson, who has been largely non-existent since he came into the league. He's certainly not great...I'd put him in the same category as @Krauser did, average. But Johnson isn't anywhere near even average. Light years is definitely an exaggeration. What is one thing the Stephen does above average? As a starting 3 tech he had 6 pressures the entire year. Not 6 QB hits. Not 6 sacks. Just six pressures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Like Krauser said, that wasn't his job. I'm not saying he's that good, I'm saying that Jaleel Johnson is that bad. He has been a non-factor his entire time here....almost a waste of a roster spot...and I expected more from him. He's got the build of a decent 3-Tech, but has never delivered on it, while Stephen, at the very least, has proven to be a competent NT. Maybe he shouldn't be starting as a 3T, but he is far more valuable to the team than Johnson is. And light-years, while an exaggeration, isn't all that far off from being accurate. Edited April 27, 2020 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, swede700 said: I read all the arguments back and forth previously, and I'm sorry, Stephen is light-years better than Johnson, who has been largely non-existent since he came into the league. He's certainly not great...I'd put him in the same category as @Krauser did, average. But Johnson isn't anywhere near even average. I agree, but I don’t think we need to decide between the two. Johnson is still miles ahead of Holmes and Hercules. Now could they emerge, maybe. I think Lynch was drafted to essentially replace both Hercules and Holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 Expect to see some moves that will make the 53 person roster a moving target after today: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krauser Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Johnson is still miles ahead of Holmes and Hercules. Now could they emerge, maybe. I think Lynch was drafted to essentially replace both Hercules and Holmes. The player Johnson needs to worry most about is Watts. They probably won't carry 4 DTs who don't play in nickel. They usually only dress 3 on game days. Watts was only kept as a 4th DT last year so as not to expose him on the practice squad. Watts was really good as a rookie in his limited snaps. If he can be a versatile DT/NT backup (as Stephen was in 2017, or Johnson last year), then Johnson is expendable. That's doubly true if Lynch can be good enough as a true DT that he could offer some depth on early downs. Holmes might stick around as a rotational pass rusher, especially if he still has versatility at DE where they'll be pretty thin after the starters. He's looked OK in preseason as a pass rusher, but didn't get anything done in his limited nickel snaps last year. I don't think they can trust him to be an every down DT. I think the ship has sailed on Mata'afa. I don't expect him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: I agree, but I don’t think we need to decide between the two. Johnson is still miles ahead of Holmes and Hercules. Now could they emerge, maybe. I think Lynch was drafted to essentially replace both Hercules and Holmes. I kept Holmes over Johnson because he still has 2 years left on his deal, while Johnson only has 1. But, as far as Hercules, I'm of the same thinking as @Krauser, that ship has sailed. I like him, but he'd have to be vastly improved to make the team this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Updated Depth Chart (positions taken from Vikings website)Drafted RookieUndrafted Free AgentFree Agent WR - Thielen (19), Sharpe (11), Osborn (17), Hollins (15), D. Davis (16), Chisena (85) WR - Jefferson (18), O. Johnson (81), Beebe (12), Mitchell (13), Q. Davis (14), Addison (89) LT - Reiff (71), Cleveland (72), Brandel (64) LG -Elflein (65), Collins (76), Higby (60) C - Bradbury (56), Jones (61), Lacina (63) RG - Samia (73), Dozier (78), Hinton (68), Aiello (67) RT - O'Neill (75), Hill (69), Udoh (74)TE - Rudolph (82), Smith Jr. (84), Conklin (83), Dillon (85), Griffen-Stewart (89)QB - Cousins (8), Mannion (4), Browning (3), Stanley (7) RB - Cook (33), Mattison (25), Abdullah (31), Boone (23), Brooks-James (35) FB - Ham (30), Bargas (40) LDE - Hunter (99), Yarbrough (52), Wonnum (57), Keely (90) NT - Pierce (98), Watts (96) UT - Stephen (93), J. Johnson (94), Mata'afa (51), J. Lynch (66), Moa (60) RDE - Odenigbo (95), Zettel (92), Willekes (60) SLB - Barr (55), Gates (47), B. Lynch (48) MLB - Kendricks (54), Smith (59), Fehr (49) WLB - Gedeon (42), Wilson (50), Dye (45) LCB - Hughes (21), Dantzler (27), Boyd (38), Fields (32), Hall (37) SS - Smith (22), Cole II (39), Dorn (43) FS - Harris (41), Mettellus (44) RCB - Gladney (20), Hill (24), Hand (29), Meadors (26), Sayles (36), Clark (34) K - Bailey (5) P - Colquitt (2) LS - Cutting (58) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, RpMc said: Updated Depth Chart (positions taken from Vikings website)Drafted RookieUndrafted Free AgentFree Agent WR - Thielen (19), Sharpe (11), Osborn (17), Hollins (15), D. Davis (16), Chisena (85) WR - Jefferson (18), O. Johnson (81), Beebe (12), Mitchell (13), Q. Davis (14), Addison (89) LT - Reiff (71), Cleveland (72), Brandel (64) LG -Elflein (65), Collins (76), Higby (60) C - Bradbury (56), Jones (61), Lacina (63) RG - Samia (73), Dozier (78), Hinton (68), Aiello (67) RT - O'Neill (75), Hill (69), Udoh (74)TE - Rudolph (82), Smith Jr. (84), Conklin (83), Dillon (85), Griffen-Stewart (89)QB - Cousins (8), Mannion (4), Browning (3), Stanley (7) RB - Cook (33), Mattison (25), Abdullah (31), Boone (23), Brooks-James (35) FB - Ham (30), Bargas (40) LDE - Hunter (99), Yarbrough (52), Wonnum (57), Keely (90) NT - Pierce (98), Watts (96) UT - Stephen (93), J. Johnson (94), Mata'afa (51), J. Lynch (66), Moa (60) RDE - Odenigbo (95), Zettel (92), Willekes (60) SLB - Barr (55), Gates (47), B. Lynch (48) MLB - Kendricks (54), Smith (59), Fehr (49) WLB - Gedeon (42), Wilson (50), Dye (45) LCB - Hughes (21), Dantzler (27), Boyd (38), Fields (32), Hall (37) SS - Smith (22), Cole II (39), Dorn (43) FS - Harris (41), Mettellus (44) RCB - Gladney (20), Hill (24), Hand (29), Meadors (26), Sayles (36), Clark (34) K - Bailey (5) P - Colquitt (2) LS - Cutting (58) This is obviously going to change a lot before cuts are made. They mostly default to the veterans, a default that I happen to agree with. It is interesting seeing they already have Gladney listed as the top RCB. This also reaffirms which positions the team currently sees these guys at right now. The other thing that caught my eye is that they already have Samia listed in front of Dozier. That surprises me, but matches what many other had been expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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