lavar703 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, brownie man said: I’ll agree his out route are average. But 2 things. 1. NFL hashes are close so this out routes won’t be as difficult. 2. Don’t throw them at much he’s near flawless every else. The opposite hash out route will not determine his career. he didn’t have a passing touchdown against OSU I was at the game. He didn’t look great at all until he hit those huge runs. LSU talent Differential vs the SEC is MUCH smaller than Clemsons talent differential vs the ACC. It’s not even close. Plus Clemsons out of conference schedule is boo boo. And his athleticism and arm strength mask his true passing skills. He’s still young for sure this may change. But right now Burrow is the better passer at attacking the field with accuracy. I like Fields better too. He’s a better complete passer. Look at the passing charts for all 3 players this past year. Lawrence is at the bottom. His freshman yeah team was absolutely loaded. I know it's been rough on Fields and Burrow playing with the crap they were surrounded with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I know it's been rough on Fields and Burrow playing with the crap they were surrounded with... All three play on great teams but when you look at Osu vs Big10 LSU vs SEC Clemson vs Acc Clemson by far has the larger level of advantage Burrow went toe to toe vs Tua and Alabama Lawrence faced Bryce Perkins and the mighty Virginia cavaliers Edited April 29, 2020 by brownie man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) Double post* Edited April 29, 2020 by brownie man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, brownie man said: All three play on great teams but when you look at Osu vs Big10 LSU vs SEC Clemson vs Acc Clemson by far has large level of advantage Burrow went toe to toe be Tua and Alabama Lawrence played Bryce Perkins and the mighty Virginia cavaliers Did Trevor Lawrence not just play, and beat Ohio State? Did he not go toe to toe with Tua and beat Alabama his Freshman Year to win a National Title? I mean, I'm confused as to what you're getting at here? Edited April 29, 2020 by lavar703 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Did Trevor Lawrence not just play, and beat Ohio State? Did he not go toe to toe with Tua and beat Alabama his Freshman Year to win a National Title? I mean, I'm confused as to what you're getting at here? I do think Lawrence is the superior prospect, but I also think Lawrence had a much easier path to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Ragnarok said: I do think Lawrence is the superior prospect, but I also think Lawrence had a much easier path to the playoffs. That's fine but the teams being brought up are teams he beat when he got there. He's lost one game as a starter and that was the National Championship. It's not like they're beating up on scrubs and then getting crushed in the playoff. He beat Tua and Justin Fields is what I'm getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Did Trevor Lawrence not just play, and beat Ohio State? Did he not go toe to toe with Tua and beat Alabama his Freshman Year to win a National Title? I mean, I'm confused as to what you're getting at here? Lawrence didn't, his team did. Why do people give QBs sole ownership of W/Ls? That's just so bass ackwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, JTagg7754 said: Lawrence didn't, his team did. Why do people give QBs sole ownership of W/Ls? That's just so bass ackwards. Sigh. Because that was the argument being used his against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) Just now, lavar703 said: Sigh. Because that was the argument being used his against him. Doesn't mean you need to continue the poor argument. Edited April 29, 2020 by JTagg7754 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, JTagg7754 said: Doesn't mean you need to continue to poor argument. For the sake of the post I'm arguing against, I do. And while it's a poor argument, it's still a universally used one by just about everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, lavar703 said: For the sake of the post I'm arguing against, I do. And while it's a poor argument, it's still a universally used one by just about everyone. I don't really care who uses it to be honest. If it's a poor argument, why use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Lawrence completed 54% of his passes against Ohio State and then 49% of his passes against LSU. The two best secondary's he played he played. His running game isn't going to be the same in the NFL as he uses it in college. Lawrence has the physical tools, but i'm not entirely sold on his accuracy as some. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: Lawrence completed 54% of his passes against Ohio State and then 49% of his passes against LSU. The two best secondary's he played he played. His running game isn't going to be the same in the NFL as he uses it in college. Lawrence has the physical tools, but i'm not entirely sold on his accuracy as some. Exactly yeah he beat OsU but it definitely wasn’t because of his passing. And I think LSU exposed him somewhat. he had way too many 50-65 percent completion passing games. And I’m not just a stats guy the tape and the completion percentage match up. This accuracy isn’t great he’s not a consistent fluid passer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killashaw Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Lawrence is 3 year younger than Burrow and already the superior QB. If Lawrence was eligible this year, Miami would have. given away all their 3 first round picks and some future first round picks to move up to 1. If Lawrence was eligible last year, Cardinals would take him over Murray. If they could currently swap Murray for Lawrence, they would do it in a heartbeat. That's how good Lawrence is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 6:15 PM, candyman93 said: Joe was a 1 year wonder. Lawrence has been a monster for 2 years and will probably be phenomenal next year. This although when I say 1 year wonder I just mean he did it for 1 year instead of him being a flash in the pan that cant repeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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