drfrey13 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: Tough question because you never know how the order shakes out. I'll swap Ruggs and Kinlaw and go based on who was available the next picks we made. SF also going WR with Aiyuk makes it a bit easier. Let's swap Kinlaw and Ruggs. I love Ruggs now and I like what we've seen, but for the heck of it, let's see: Assuming the next picks went the same, I would have grabbed Aiyuk at 19. I would have thought about Justin Jefferson, but I know I would have gone with Aiyuk. It gets tricky after that though. We still needed a CB. In 3, I would've probably jumped on Julian Blackmon (S) at 80 and used 81 on a CB (probably Darnay Holmes). Problem there is that we don't take Edwards and he's probably gone by 100 so I'm likely taking Gabriel Davis or LB (Preferred Dye) there. Kinlaw, Aiyuk, Blackmon, Holmes, Davis Or Ruggs, Arnette, Bowden, Edwards, Muse I know the first option appeals to me more as far as hindsight, but with how things shook out, I don't see us winding up with Ruggs and Edwards without taking Ruggs at 12. You could argue that both were 1st round caliber WRs. It's always fun to re-draft, but I don't think I'd give up both Edwards and Ruggs for Kinlaw, even without the Bowden whiff and the Muse ?'s. Once you start fiddling with a pick, your whole draft order likely changes. I agree but seeing this defensive line and its need for a dominant player inside I would be hard pressed to not switch. Ruggs does make things easier on the rest of the offense but they can also play good without him if they do not make a bunch of mistakes and everyone else get hurt. Tough call and I could definitely see Ruggs or Kinlaw turning into dominant players. Knowing what I know now I take KInlaw and Ruggs falls to us @ 19. Take the Dantzler at 80 and still grab Edwards. I like Arnette a lot more than Dantzler but would rather have Kinlaw with a lesser CB. Will have to wait and see if we made the right choice in a coupe years but Kinlaw is a man child while Ruggs is a difference maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 23 hours ago, jimkelly02 said: Btw just because Holland was used in the role he was used last year doesn’t mean he can’t play FS.... he might now have ideal world class deep range but it’s pretty solid. Plus there’s a lot of value in Safeties that can cover in the slot and are so multi-dimensional in coverage. It doesn't mean that he can't but he's just an average athlete that has okay but not great range. And has clearly been his best in the box and slot so why would you take him away from doing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Couple guys who look promising in 2021: DT: - Jaylen Twyman - Marvin Wilson - Christian Barmore - Jay Tufele - Darius Stills - Lorenzo Neal - Tyler Shelvin - LaBryan Ray Actually think this DT has a lot of potential. Of course this is early, but a few guys stocks can rise Over the next few months. We need a high impact DT, who can control the LOS. Priority Edge: - Gregory Rousseau - Quincy Roache - Aidan Hutchinson - Patrick Jones - Hamilcar Rashed - Xavier Thomas - Shaka Toney - Carlos Basham - Chris Rumph we might have our base ends in Ferrell, and Mad Max but we need another sack specialist. We need to change our defensive philosophy! Need to look to punish offenses. Raiders could use a situational pass rusher as a weapon. Defense needs more talent, and pass rush help. Priority LB: -Micah Parsons - Dylan Moses - Cameron Mcgrone - Chazz Surrat - Jabril Cox - Jeremiah Owusu Koramoah - Charles Snowden - Baron Browning - Nick Bolton - Paddy Fisher - Joseph Ossai - Kuony Deng - Terrel Bernard - Merlin Robertson - KJ Britt - Palaie Gaoteote - Nate Landman - Justin Rice Day2- Our Lbs haven’t looked good, but our DL has been bad and horrible playcalling. We have two good LBs on Kwit, and Littleton. We have zero depth, and McMillen is an unknown. Muse might just be a special teamer. This unit needs more talent, lacks any depth. FS: - Andre Cisco - Jevon Holland - Paris Ford - Hamsah Nasirildeen - Caden Sterns - Ardarius Washington - Richard LeCounte - Trevon Moehrig - Reed Blankenship Priority: The defense needs to find a centerfield for their defense. Big need for the team of course the draft is far in the future, and everything can change. I believe there is talent at positions of need. let’s see who stocks rises. Edited October 2, 2020 by Humble_Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) wrong thread. Edited October 2, 2020 by Trojan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverLining Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I'm all on board with a DT and a FS our defensive line looks really bad so far this season. I might wouldn't mind a LB or Edge. Just depends on what we do in free agency. Not really sold on many edge rushers in this coming draft though, Maybe Patrick Jones II, or Carlos Basham. Don't see edge as a first round need, But somewhere in the draft potentially. For Linebackers though there are a few i do like, I'm not really sold on Kwiatkowski, he I believe has a history of pec injuries before he even got here and injured his pec first game in. Have to be prepared incase he does stay injured a lot. Thats really my only concern about him, he looks like he plays really well its just the injuries that bug me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer026 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Big Seth Williams fan. Not our biggest position of need though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 If we can get him, I want Jaylen Waddle. I know we have enough WR but he's a game changer. You win in this league by putting up 30+ a week. We can do that with Waddle. Let's see how our offense does against the high powered defenses and KC. DT and FS are definitely much bigger needs, but objectively Waddle is one of the most special WR prospects I've seen in a while along with Chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I praised KJ Costello last week. Tonight he looked awful. His arm looked weak very alarming there. Also Kyle Pitts may be the best offensive player in the draft. Without Chase playing this year. Not sure I would take any WR over the TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: I praised KJ Costello last week. Tonight he looked awful. His arm looked weak very alarming there. Also Kyle Pitts may be the best offensive player in the draft. Without Chase playing this year. Not sure I would take any WR over the TE. Hopefully this free agency we spend on starters that are obvious needs, and not break the bank for depth. Sign depth guys later in the free agency process. When draft rolls around, we can go BPA and not reach for needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: If we can get him, I want Jaylen Waddle. I know we have enough WR but he's a game changer. You win in this league by putting up 30+ a week. We can do that with Waddle. Let's see how our offense does against the high powered defenses and KC. DT and FS are definitely much bigger needs, but objectively Waddle is one of the most special WR prospects I've seen in a while along with Chase. How is the Cowboys strategy of 3 elite WR's working out for them so far this season? Doesn't matter if you put up 30+ per week if you're giving up 40+ per week. And besides, we've had Edwards/Ruggs healthy for 2 games and put up 34 in back to back games. Building around skill position players by taking them early in the first round every year is the Al Davis way. Kansas City and San Francisco both finished the season in the top 5 in scoring offense at 28+ ppg. But neither team had a 1,000+ yard WR and they both only had 1 WR go for 700+ yards last season. But they also finished in the top 10 in scoring defense and allowed less than 20 ppg while also having 45+ sacks and 20+ takeaways. Edited October 4, 2020 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: How is the Cowboys strategy of 3 elite WR's working out for them so far this season? Doesn't matter if you put up 30+ per week if you're giving up 40+ per week. And besides, we've had Edwards/Ruggs healthy for 2 games and put up 34 in back to back games. Building around skill position players by taking them early in the first round every year is the Al Davis way. Kansas City and San Francisco both finished the season in the top 5 in scoring offense at 28+ ppg. But neither team had a 1,000+ yard WR and they both only had 1 WR go for 700+ yards last season. But they also finished in the top 10 in scoring defense and allowed less than 20 ppg while also having 45+ sacks and 20+ takeaways. This would obviously be banking on a non-historically bad defense 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, MrOaktown_56 said: This would obviously be banking on a non-historically bad defense 😂. Have you seen our defense play this year? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Texans are 0-4 and cause of BOB they don't have their first round pick. Miami could be getting a sweet top 10 pick ontop of their own top 10 pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 52 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Texans are 0-4 and cause of BOB they don't have their first round pick. Miami could be getting a sweet top 10 pick ontop of their own top 10 pick They have Houston's 1st & 2nd round picks this year. They had 3 1sts and 2 2nds in 2020 and will have 2 1sts and 2 2nds this year. 9 first or second round picks in a 2 year span is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Not even four first round picks would fix this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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