Rich7sena Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 19 hours ago, OnlyGlove said: That was my point. Arguing JOK is undersized isn't a real argument for him in my opinion as coverage LBs can play with guards. But as you say, keep him clean and in space and watch him be one of the best coverage LBs in the league. Who also hits like a truck I think both his size and how he interacts with blockers is important in figuring out where you want him in a defense. I wouldn't want him anywhere between the tackles in the NFL. Like many are saying, you want him to play a similar role to Derwin James--outside the tackles in a pseudo edge role. He's not Darius Leonard (who isn't particularly athletic, just undersized), Lavonte David, or Deion Jones. Contrary to popular belief, linebackers still have to negotiate blockers in the NFL. The run game is still a major factor, and if your second level is easily exploitable, then it doesn't matter how good they are in coverage because they'll make it up in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Sure this has been posted. But Sims has Cisco as his #1 safety. Moehrig not in his top 5. And everybody else has Moehrig number one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGlove Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Rich7sena said: I think both his size and how he interacts with blockers is important in figuring out where you want him in a defense. I wouldn't want him anywhere between the tackles in the NFL. Like many are saying, you want him to play a similar role to Derwin James--outside the tackles in a pseudo edge role. He's not Darius Leonard (who isn't particularly athletic, just undersized), Lavonte David, or Deion Jones. Contrary to popular belief, linebackers still have to negotiate blockers in the NFL. The run game is still a major factor, and if your second level is easily exploitable, then it doesn't matter how good they are in coverage because they'll make it up in the run game. And that's exactly where I'd want to play him, put him him in space and let him cover. Early downs put him in the nickle/linebacker role that he played in college and Gus Bradley has used in the NFL. On clear passing downs you don't have to worry that much with him taking on blockers and you can put a DB on to cover the slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Sure this has been posted. But Sims has Cisco as his #1 safety. Moehrig not in his top 5. lol at him saying the Seattle defense doesn't work anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Trey Hill is a guy that I'd target later in the draft, started at both OG/C at Georgia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, NYRaider said: lol at him saying the Seattle defense doesn't work anymore... It's certainly not been effective in Atlanta or Dallas in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGlove Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 44 minutes ago, big_palooka said: It's certainly not been effective in Atlanta or Dallas in recent years. Could say the same about Cover 2 defense too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 hours ago, big_palooka said: Sure this has been posted. But Sims has Cisco as his #1 safety. Moehrig not in his top 5. Simms tries to be outside the box and “hope it sticks”. He’s been on record multiple times his dream job is NFL GM, which he is trying to get. In order for him to get that, he’s going to have to be right on a 5+ players that nobody else is right on. Hell, he has Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence for crying out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, BayRaider said: Simms tries to be outside the box and “hope it sticks”. He’s been on record multiple times his dream job is NFL GM, which he is trying to get. In order for him to get that, he’s going to have to be right on a 5+ players that nobody else is right on. Hell, he has Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence for crying out loud. Interesting... I do respect that he's willing to go against the grain. He had some nice calls last year. Okudah 3rd ranked CB, Lamb 1, Jefferson 2 at WR. Herbert 2 at QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Simms tries to be outside the box and “hope it sticks”. He’s been on record multiple times his dream job is NFL GM, which he is trying to get. In order for him to get that, he’s going to have to be right on a 5+ players that nobody else is right on. Hell, he has Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence for crying out loud. In fairness, I don't think it's all that wild of a prediction. Cisco has had mid-2nd appeal for a while in some circles. I'd be interested to know how he would have been regarded if not for the injury. I'm not overly enamored by him, or Moehrig for that matter, but I can somewhat see conflicting preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 hours ago, oakdb36 said: And everybody else has Moehrig number one. Sims will hit here with his outside the norm predictions but he has a lot of bad takes as well that are way off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Trey Hill is a guy that I'd target later in the draft, started at both OG/C at Georgia. He’s very underrated... he been ranked as a 6-UDFA pretty across the board. He’s got good size and can move adequately for a bigger C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Interesting... I do respect that he's willing to go against the grain. He had some nice calls last year. Okudah 3rd ranked CB, Lamb 1, Jefferson 2 at WR. Herbert 2 at QB. His QB rankings this year: 1. Zach Wilson 2. Trevor Lawerence 3. Mac Jones 4. Kellen Mond 5. Justin Fields 6. Trey Lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 At this point the only OT I'd even want in the 1st is Darrisaw because if Kolton ever got hurt at least he'd also provide an insurance option at LT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, NYRaider said: His QB rankings this year: 1. Zach Wilson 2. Trevor Lawerence 3. Mac Jones 4. Kellen Mond 5. Justin Fields 6. Trey Lance Man... the Wilson over Lawrence thing, like ok.. you're taking a shot and you really love Wilson... but Jones and Mond over Fields and Lance? Yikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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