How are those Draft Picks Doing?: 2017 Edition

[SteelKing728]

5 minutes ago, TENINCH said:

All set in motion from that terrible Sam Bradford pick up

We could've had Mahomes!!

[Dome]

1 hour ago, MikeT14 said:

1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said:

Vikings:

Bucky Hodges: F. Thinks he's better than Rudolph but he's out of the league.

So mad this one didn't work out

He’s a beast in Madden still

[August4th]

I like that the 1st pick in this is thread is one of the greatest draft picks in the modern era lol one hell of a grade

Edited April 28, 2020 by August4th

[vikingsrule]

2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

Vikings:

Dalvin Cook: B. Very good when healthy, but he's hardly ever healthy. Could be a top 5 back but I don't think his body can withstand the hits.

Pat Elflein: D. He was solid year 1, and still good when blocking downfield, but he gets demolished regularly by most DTs. Probably shouldn't be starting but maybe a good backup I guess.

Jaleel Johnson: C-. Never really developed after a stellar rookie preseason. Backup at best.

Ben Gedeon: C. WLB only play 30% of the snaps. He doesn't make any plays but he's not a liability.

Rodney Adams: F. Out of the league.

Danny Isidora. D+. We traded him so I guess he's viewed as depth. Meh.

Bucky Hodges: F. Thinks he's better than Rudolph but he's out of the league.

Stacy Coley: F. Out of the league.

Ifeadi Odenigbo:B. After being cut 3 times, he's set to start for us. Excellent 3rd DE last year who can rush from the edge or interior. Love this pick.

Elijah Lee: F. Got snatched up by SF and started due to injury. We should've never put him on the PS.

Jack Tocho: F. Out of the league.

So I guess D+/C- for us.

F when you factor in the Bradford trade.

[ET80]

Houston Texans:

1.12: Deshaun Watson. Had it not been for Pat Mahomes, he'd be the crown jewel of this class. One of the new faces of the NFL, he's on his way to a very storied career. A+

2.57: Zach Cunningham. An every down starter, he's probably the most impactful player in the front seven. He's a relentless run stopper, can cover guys out of the backfield and makes big plays all over the field. Had Watson not been in this draft, this is the keystone selection of this class. A+

3:89: D'Onta Foreman. He was looking like a specimen at RB, but blew out his ankle during his first start. Between that and spats with management, he wasn't ever going to get a fair shake. Currently with the Colts, I think. F

4:130: Julie'n Davenport. Forced into starting job too early, looked every part of a project at LT. Was part of the Larmey Tunsil trade. D

4.142: Carlos Watkins. Looks okay in limited snaps, but can't get on the field consistently. Not sure if that's because of his limited talent, or because the HC has a grudge. C-

5.169: Treston Decoud. Cut after one season, was playing for the Dallas Renegades of the XFL. Didn't really do much here. D

7.243: Kyle Fuller. Cut after two seasons, bounced around to Miami, Washington and Seattle. D

The Watson and Cunningham picks were transformative for both sides of the ball, both guys are elite. Foreman should have done better, but the injury and beef with coaching staff tanked him (this being said, the beef probably wasn't his fault). Rest of the guys weren't even roster fodder or ST depth. 

This class gets a B-, just on the strength of Watson and Cunningham. Had any of these other guys worked out, it's an A.

[minutemancl]

Evan Engram is one of the best receiving TEs in the NFL when healthy, which is not often enough. I'd give this pick a C+.

Dalvin Tomlinson is one of the best young DTs in the game. He's been good against the run from day one, but reached a new level last year at generating pressure. A.

Davis Webb is now a practice squad journeyman. Has never taken a regular season snap. No longer on the team, but has been on every New York team. D-.

Wayne Gallman is a decent backup RB. Has performed well in limited snaps. C+/B-.

Avery Moss is on the Dolphins now, where he plays sparingly. D.

Adam Bisnowaty is out of the league, because he is god awful. F.

[Dome]

8 minutes ago, August4th said:

I like that the 1st pick in this is thread is one of the greatest draft picks in the modern era lol one hell of a grade

Live look at @Chiefer anxiously waiting for someone to make the "How are your 2017 rookies doing?" thread.

[SalvadorsDeli]

Ravens.

1. 16: Marlon Humphrey. Big hit on this one. We wanted to trade up for Marshon Lattimore but were unable to, but grabbed a top tier corner of our own at 16 instead. Cornerstone of an elite secondary. A+ 

2.47. Tyus Bowser EDGE: Very different kind of EDGE pick than we've usually gone for - super athletic guy who didn't really know what to do with those talents. Barely played his first 2 years but seems to be putting it together now and took on a bigger rotational role in 2019 playing well in multiple facets when he was on the field. He'll likely see even more playing time in his contract year and looks like a good breakout candidate for 2020, but as of now we're still mostly talking about his talent/potential as opposed to production. C+ 

3.74. Chris Wormley DE: Basically the epitome of a rotational JAG type. Traded to Pittsburgh this offseason. Not a bad pick given he at least saw the field, but nothing to write home about. C+

3.78. Tim Williams EDGE: Man we had high hopes for this one. The talent was there but seemed like something was lacking in terms of his work ethic/attitude, and he never really developed beyond the pass rushing moves he came out of college with. Cut by the team and seemingly just bouncing around practice squads now. F

4.122. Nico Siragusa IOL: Suffered a devastating injury during his rookie training camp that essentially ended his career before it got started. F

5. 159. Jermaine Eluemenor IOL: Average to below average when he played, but we somehow got a 4th round pick for him from the Patriots so worked out somewhat for us in a roundabout way. B

6. 186. Chuck Clark SS: One of those guys that was seemingly always getting hyped by his teammates and coaches without much to show for it, but he got his chance in 2019 when Tony Jefferson got hurt and hit big with it. Incredibly intelligent player who took the green dot as soon as he stepped into the starting lineup and a great fit with Wink's defense with his versatility and ability to play safety or linebacker depending on the defensive front. Signed a long-term extension this offseason and firmly a part of the team's future. Huge hit. A+

UDFA: Big get for us in UDFA that year was Pat Ricard who is starting fullback and blocked for the best running game in NFL history and is also a rotational defensive linemen. Super fun/interesting player to have on the roster. 

Picked up two important pieces of what is arguably the NFL's best secondary with our 1st and last picks of the draft. Not a lot to brag about in between those picks though, although at least Bowser is more of a TBD as opposed to a bust already. 

[Daniel]

Corey Davis: C-

He broke out at the end of 2018, and is still a good receiver, but he's not looking like a better choice than Mike Williams, who was the consensus No. 1.  He's better than his numbers from last year; those were stunted by the rise of AJ Brown, but it's become a foregone conclusion among Titans fans that he's gonna leave in free agency.  Bad call going against the grain on this one, but still got a productive receiver who's by no means a bust.

Adoree Jackson: B+

A good, above average starting corner.  Still a little up and down from week to week, he finished 2019 strong, and will be re-signed short of a catastrophic injury or a holdout.  Even at his worst, he doesn't get abused consistently, just gives up too many big plays.  Good pick, but he's a first rounder, so it's expected.

Taywan Taylor: D-

Chris Godwin was there.  Taywan Taylor is no longer with the team, and never contributed more than depth.  And Chris Godwin was there.

Jonnu Smith: A-

He took a while to break out behind Delanie Walker, but he looks like he's gonna be only a slight step down.  He also has an amazingly punable first name, and has given me such fantasy football name gems as Fake Jonnus, and Send Jonnudes.

Jayon Brown: A+

Pro bowl level linebacker for a fifth round pick.  I wanted Anthony Walker at the time, and had never heard of Brown.  This time, JRob knew what was up.  Brown is about to get paaaaaaid this offseason.

Corey Levine: B

Was our depth center for a while, and flashed in the preseason.  Even saw some starting time down the road with mixed results.  Got cut last year for a more versatile player who the fanbase hates.  That's pretty good for a late sixth.

Josh Carraway: C-

A seventh rounder who made the team.

Brad Seaton: D+

A seventh rounder who didn't make the team.

Khalfani Muhammed: D+

Another seventh rounder who didn't make the team.

Overall: B+

Would be an A-. but the Titans had two firsts, so they started with a ton of capital.  They got four starters out of this (even though Davis was only ever a No. 2 quality WR), but they misfired on a couple of picks, so I can only imagine the god-tier draft that would have been if they'd gone with consensus picks at receiver and came away with Mike Williams and Chris Godwin instead.

 

[TitanSlim]

Corey Davis- A good player. The problem is he was picked 5th overall. If he was a the 25th pick instead, I think he'd be viewed differently. B-/C+

Adoree Jackson-Has gotten better each year to the point that now he's our clearcut #1 CB. Certainly is without flaws but has turned into a very good CB (ironically he's a terrible return man, despite his rep for it entering the NFL). I think he could be in for a breakout year if we have a season B+

Taywan Taylor-Flashed at times but never put it together. Was traded to the Browns before week 1 of last season, and had no impact for them. Future in the league is uncertain now. D

Jonnu Smith- Like Adoree, he too has gotten better every season. Also like Adoree could be primed for a breakout 2020 season. Had moments his first 2 years but last year became a legit threat once Delanie went out. Looks like our longterm answer at TE. B+

Jayon Brown-Had established himself as a key player for us by his second year. Is a great coverage LB, while also being a pretty good linebacker. Hopefully will be a duo with Rashaan Evans for a long time. Can't ask for much more from a 5th rounder. A

Everyone else pretty much had no impact what so ever.

So overall, we drafted 4 starters/3 who we probably will sign to a second contract. Even with the Taywan Taylor flop and overdrafting Corey Davis, I'd give this draft a B+.

[Johnny Nix]

Bengals

1. John Ross WR : D+
I was exciting about the pick at the time. A speedster who could help take the top off the defense and provide an exciting new toy to the offense. While he has flashed at times, he has been unable to stay healthy. Mahomes being selected a pick later makes this look even worse. 
 

2. Joe Mixon RB : A+
At the time Mixon was a controversial pick, but no one could deny his talent. Since then he has been one of the top backs in the league. 
 

3. Jordan Willis DE : D+

Was a rotational piece for a while, but never really lived up to expectations.

4. Carl Lawson DE : A-

Lawson has been a stud when healthy off the edge. He was a great find in round 4.

4. Josh Malone WR: D+

Malone has some early production but never really became the consistent deep threat they wanted him to be.

 

4. Ryan Glasgow DT: C
Has been a solid rotational piece on the Dline. 
 

5. Jake Elliott K : F

Flashed in preseason but was cut for Fat Randy Bullock. Is now a solid kicker for the Eagles. 
 

5. JJ Dielman C : F

Was cut, I don’t know where he is now. 
 

6. Jordan Evans LB : C-

Linebacker depth and solid special teams. 
 

6. Brandon Wilson S/KR : A

A late round gem. Wilson has been a tremendous special teams stud. 
 

7. Mason Schreck TE : C-

Still hanging around on the practice squad, will compete for a roster spot this year. 

[BroncoSojia]

......I don't want to talk about it.

[Wyld Stallyns]

4 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

Vikings:

Rodney Adams: F. Out of the league.

Not necessarily true yet

Colts signed him to a reserved/futures contract in 2018 but he retired before the draft. He just recently filed for reinstatement so he is on the Colts roster but he’ll be fighting for a roster spot with some younger players. 

[Chiefs_5627]

1 hour ago, BroncoSojia said:

......I don't want to talk about it.

I was really worried Jake Butt was gonna be your Kelce, when he was drafted. Can't remember what injury he had but it must've kept him down?

Plus think of all the cool "LOLs" y'all missed out on! "Butt is a solid tight end!", "Butt finds an opening!" "Butt into the endzone for the score!" 😭

Edited April 28, 2020 by Chiefs_5627

[animaltested]

2.35 DL Malik McDowell - INC

Never played a snap because he didn't wear a helmet while ATVing. 

2.58 OL Ethan Pocic - D

Has made 16 starts at multiple positions, but is honestly living off draft position. When he's played he has been mostly bad. Last two years has spent most of his time in the medical tent.

3.90 CB Shaq Griffin - A+

Has been a day 1 starter since he stepped onto the field. Had a very inconsistent sophomore season, but last year was a really good player. Got invited to his 1st pro bowl in 2019.

3.95 S Delano Hill - C

Has gotten 6 starts in the last three years. Was playing well at the end of 2018 but injured his hip. Never really recovered. At this point he's a rotational 3rd-4th safety, spending most of his time on ST. Ended 2019 by blowing his bracket coverage of Davonte Adams, effectively ending Seattle's Season. 

3.102 DT Naz Jones - D

Looked like a legit 3 TECH his rookie year. Started off by pick-6ing Aaron Rodgers (called back due to a bogus penalty). After a promising start as a rotational defensive tackle, couldn't crack the rotation in 2018, and spent all of 2019 on IR. Probably outside looking in for a roster spot in 2020.

3.106 WR Amara Darboh - D

Played in all 16 games as a rookie. Had a few highlights, looked poised to have a bigger contribution in 2018. Never played another snap for Seattle.

4.111 S Tedric Thompson - C-

Was the heir apparently for Earl Thomas at the single high. Took over after 2018 after Earls injury, and made 16 starts total in 2018-2019. At times he looked like a starting caliber safety, other times, completely lost. Seattle fan despised him by the end. Was cut a few weeks ago. 

6.187 S Mike Tyson - F 

Never played a snap for Seattle.

6.210 OT Justin Senior - INC

Drafted hurt, didn't even make the team post draft.

7.226 WR David Moore - B+

Has been a solid contributor the last two years. 43/746/7 is good production for a 7th

7.249 RB Chris Carson - A+

Starting RB since his rookie year. Finished 5th in the NFL in rushing yards in 2019.

 

Shaq Griffin and Chris Carson prevent this class from being an absolute dud. This class is a big reason why Seattle has been struggling filling depth, and having to rely on FA and trades to add starters.