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I like picking intelligent, sound players who are also good guys who has a lot of experience and Bredeson has all those traits, but I would be very surprised if he amounts to be anything more than a backup.

Regarding Malik Harrison, this is why he can work well as a delayed blitzer or a linebacker who can come down hill fast and exploits stunts and twists, but I still don't want to see him turn his back and run down the field with tight ends or runningbacks, because then he will get exposed. 

Having Madubuike cross the face of a guard and then let that guard feel Malik "the hammer" Harrison is a recipe for pressure up the middle

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9 hours ago, diamondbull424 said:

Can’t believe we passed over Tyler Biadasz to take this dude. I’ve yet to see any tape of his that I find impressive. Can’t help but feel it was a nepotism type of selection. I’d rather gamble on an injury prone talent that can dominate when healthy than a JAG. Hopefully Bredeson proves me wrong though.

Sorry but I believe I will trust the Ravens scouting staff and their tape evaluation over yours..

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2 hours ago, Letsch80 said:

Sorry but I believe I will trust the Ravens scouting staff and their tape evaluation over yours..

😂 Okay??? Do you actually believe that the party stance on this matter somehow makes you unique? 

Perhaps you should form your own opinions based off of your own understandings in conjunction with the understandings of others? Perhaps based off of those understandings you could, I don’t know, debate your detailed beliefs for the purposes of creating an organic growth of thought; inspiring newly achieved understandings from every party involved.

I mean it requires the bare minimum to at least educate yourself on sufficient reasonings that would lead to your congruent thought with the Ravens selection of Bredeson.

Even in my disagreement with the Ravens selection of Bredeson, I still respect it as a validated opinion; I also respect it an infinite times more than the opinion of someone that cultivates the entirety of their opinion, and therefore their identity, blindly off of a fallible source.

So while I recognize my opinion to be entirely fallible, which I acknowledged in my quoted material above, I have also at least attempted an educated response vs relying on my ignorance and the external correctness of another/others to validate my my mental acuity. One path at least requires the courage of individual thought.

So while in the end, Bredeson may entirely prove me wrong (hopefully), you will never be proven right- for your opinion isn’t even yours; it is borrowed from a different owner. Yet if Bredeson doesn’t perform to the same level as Biadasz and is an inferior player (and the Cowboys have proven equally that they know how to build great OLs and thus also have a trustworthy opinion), if Bredeson is inferior, I at least will know why. Whereas you will be just as ignorant as you were prior to you quoting my opinion on the matter and ushering your response. So congrats?

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10 hours ago, Danand said:

I like picking intelligent, sound players who are also good guys who has a lot of experience and Bredeson has all those traits, but I would be very surprised if he amounts to be anything more than a backup.

Regarding Malik Harrison, this is why he can work well as a delayed blitzer or a linebacker who can come down hill fast and exploits stunts and twists, but I still don't want to see him turn his back and run down the field with tight ends or runningbacks, because then he will get exposed. 

Having Madubuike cross the face of a guard and then let that guard feel Malik "the hammer" Harrison is a recipe for pressure up the middle

Oh I absolutely agree. It’s worked in supplying us with solid starters in the vein of Bradley Bozeman (though Bredeson isn’t nearly as physical and strong as Bozeman coming out of Alabama, faster though) and Matt Skura.

But I agree I don’t see anything more than a good backup, perhaps he could be a James Hurst level option to be a deeply reliable fill in, only at OG and C vs OG and OT. If we ran predominantly a zone blocking scheme I would find Bredeson to be more intriguing an option, but as it stands and from what I’ve seen he’s behind Powers, Fluker, and possibly Phillips if they deem him an OG/OT and not simply a tackle. With Biadasz, outside of the medicals I can’t see, he was the best center prospect I’ve seen of the last decade.

With Harrison his athletic profile is very intriguing. I think it was @DreamKid who mentioned Harrison was in rare athletic company at 6’3” 250 lbs with his athleticism. His impact on stunts like you said could be palpable. I could also envision some creativity where he could get in some edge work and eat. If he can develop along the edge, it could really allow Martindale to explore some truly creative packages. It would legit be organized chaos all over again (how I loved that 2006 defense outside of Samari Rolle and Corey Ivy).

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1 hour ago, DreamKid said:

 

I can’t wait to see what he looks like behind his giant escort service. The beef on our DL is going to allow him to eat clean and eat good.

I mean 90th percentile speed score with burgeoning instincts. The only weakness to his game is physicality as a finisher and having Malik Harrison next to him and that DL in front of him with Chuck Clark and ET behind him will remedy most any situation. Without the stout DL or a thumping running mate I might be more apprehensive but at that age with those traits and this DL, wouldn’t shock me if he’s a PB player in year one or the eventual winner of the DROY award.

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21 minutes ago, diamondbull424 said:

The only weakness to his game is physicality as a finisher

Yea, he did seem him struggle to put down a guy for good at times. I expect that to improve with age/physical growth + experience obviously, and luckily our swarm mentality on defense will bail him out a good % of the time. Plus even if he can't finish right there and then, I'll still take a guy actually getting there and on his man over what we've been treated to from past LBs in recent years. 

Queen's processing speed and football IQ are so high for his age and level of experience. Then you add in his berserker mentality and love of the game. Oh, and he's a sub 4.5 athlete. 

Fun times ahead for us and him with this new look defense. I'm excited. Just hoping we get an actual season at this point 🤞.

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Couple other videos beneath this one. I guess it's good the guys are bonding, and everyone looks to be in solid shape. Getting oiled up and wrestling for catches with the squad doesn't seem like fun to me, but to each their own I suppose. Hope they don't hurt anything and stay COVID free.

 

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All 1st Round Picks(Lamb,Aiyuk,Jefferson) and future 1st Round Picks (Chase,Smith) on this list. Then Devin Duvernay. Good company.

Other Duvernay stats:

- 2.04 career drop rate is the lowest of any Power 5 WR since 2018

- 0 missed games in 4 yrs

- Led NCAA in 1st Down Catches on 3rd Down with 25

 

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8 hours ago, DreamKid said:

Yea, he did seem him struggle to put down a guy for good at times. I expect that to improve with age/physical growth + experience obviously, and luckily our swarm mentality on defense will bail him out a good % of the time. Plus even if he can't finish right there and then, I'll still take a guy actually getting there and on his man over what we've been treated to from past LBs in recent years. 

Queen's processing speed and football IQ are so high for his age and level of experience. Then you add in his berserker mentality and love of the game. Oh, and he's a sub 4.5 athlete. 

Fun times ahead for us and him with this new look defense. I'm excited. Just hoping we get an actual season at this point 🤞.

I have absolutely no concern about his ability to finish, as long as he takes notes from Lavonte David. All he has to do is go watch Lavonte David film from college, and then watch what Lavonte did in the NFL and how that proper form tackle technique works, and Queen should be good.

He is young and inexperienced, so obviously his feel for going with the flow and stay a bit behind the ball is going to improve. Its all about play recognition and experience I hope, because the rest is there

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Damn shame we didn't get a Preseason if for nothing else other than to see how these numbers would've translated early on for John Daka. I love watching these FCS monsters debut in the league. His 2019 totals are just F'n bonkers. Cool story too, kid was born in Zambia. Hopefully he flashes in camp and is able to stick around as at least a developmental stash option.

 

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I watched some film on Daka, and I wasn't that impressed. It was against some low level competition and I had difficulties seeing it translate to the next level. I think he has some nice tools to work with, and with a limited preseason, we might be able to avoid interest in his raw talent from other teams. 

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18 minutes ago, Danand said:

I watched some film on Daka, and I wasn't that impressed. It was against some low level competition and I had difficulties seeing it translate to the next level. I think he has some nice tools to work with, and with a limited preseason, we might be able to avoid interest in his raw talent from other teams. 

Yea they have some of the James Madison FCS playoff games up on YT. It's about what you'd expect whenever you see one of these small school undersized super compilers. Superior athleticism allows him to easily beat OTs around the arc and with inside counters. He's got a solid motor, tenacity, and decent power for his size. However, I doubt he amounts to all that much as well. It'd be really nice for a young EDGE piece to emerge though. Judon, Bowser, McPhee- all of them could be gone next offseason and we have no one in the talent pipeline besides an underwhelming Jaylon Ferguson. If Ferg could take some miracle step forward I'd feel a lot better going forward, but I don't think 2020 is going to gift us that one..

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39 minutes ago, DreamKid said:

Yea they have some of the James Madison FCS playoff games up on YT. It's about what you'd expect whenever you see one of these small school undersized super compilers. Superior athleticism allows him to easily beat OTs around the arc and with inside counters. He's got a solid motor, tenacity, and decent power for his size. However, I doubt he amounts to all that much as well. It'd be really nice for a young EDGE piece to emerge though. Judon, Bowser, McPhee- all of them could be gone next offseason and we have no one in the talent pipeline besides an underwhelming Jaylon Ferguson. If Ferg could take some miracle step forward I'd feel a lot better going forward, but I don't think 2020 is going to gift us that one..

Well, that is basically what I saw as well, and I thought of that edge rusher that came out 1 or 2 years ago, Rondale Bingham or something like that. Don't know where he wound up.

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