JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WindyCity said: The other QBs that have won Superbowls in that time Brady Wilson Mahomes Brees Manning E Manning Roethlisberger Rodgers Did I really need to write out that list for you? That's not what the argument was. The argument was your list of mediocre QB's. And again. You are ignoring my question like you always do. So what you are saying is that a GM is only as good as his QB? Edited May 16, 2020 by JustAnotherFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Competing for Championships. We have made the playoffs once. I may change that assessment point for Pace if he gets back to the playoffs, but at this point there is nothing consistent about the Bears competing to win a Super Bowl. We've made the playoffs once in 2 years after Pace cleaned house. What are you expecting here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 minute ago, JustAnotherFan said: That's not what the argument was. The argument was your list of mediocre QB's. And again. You are ignoring my question like you always do. So what you are saying is that a GM is only as good as his QB? I answered. A GM is only as good as his results. The results are heavily influenced by the QB. So, simple answer is Yes. 16/20 Super Bowls would confirm that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Just now, JustAnotherFan said: We've made the playoffs once in 2 years after Pace cleaned house. What are you expecting here? I expected not to have a massive team wide regression in year 2. I expected that we wouldn’t be back in QB purgatory in year 2. I don’t see a team trending in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Just now, WindyCity said: A GM is only as good as his results. The results are heavily influenced by the QB. So, simple answer is Yes. AND THIS is where the BS starts among some fans. This is "who is more important to the Patriots. Belichick or Brady" argument all over. Ok. I see what type of fan you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) I'm done with this. Windy. It's clear that not even YOU know what your standards are at this point because you continuously contradict yourself and talk yourself into a corner and bail whenever someone questions you on it. Edited May 16, 2020 by JustAnotherFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said: AND THIS is where the BS starts among some fans. This is "who is more important to the Patriots. Belichick or Brady" argument all over. Ok. I see what type of fan you are. I am not sure what you are talking about. What the hell do Bill and Tom have to do with anything. Your QB, in a majority of cases, sets the ceiling for your team. That makes it more important than other decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 minute ago, JustAnotherFan said: I'm done with this. Windy. It's clear that not even YOU know what your standards are at this point because you continuously contraindicate yourself and talk yourself into a corner and bail whenever someone questions you on it. What are you talking about? What am I bailing on? You should be done because you are clearly confused. Sit back and let the Bears mediocrity wash over you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Just now, WindyCity said: I am not sure what you are talking about. What the hell do Bill and Tom have to do with anything. Your QB, in a majority of cases, sets the ceiling for your team. That makes it more important than other decisions. because you are essentially saying that GM's like Belichick, Schneider(sp), etc are only considered good GM"s because they have had good QB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I don't know how you don't see this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Just now, JustAnotherFan said: because you are essentially saying that GM's like Belichick, Schneider(sp), etc are only considered good GM"s because they have had good QB's. I am saying that they wouldn’t be considered nearly as good as they are if they hadn’t hit on the QB. If Schnieder had rolled his entire career with Matt Flynn he would probably have been fired by now. If Bill had played 20 years with Matt Cassel he wouldn’t have 6 rings and wouldn’t be viewed the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said: I don't know how you don't see this? GMs live or die with their decision at QB. Average GMs look good when they get the QB right. Good GMs look great when they get the QB right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) Windy. Put together a list of GM's that you consider better than Pace, with detailed reasons as to why. And then we'll go back and check your posts and revisit them How about that? Edited May 16, 2020 by JustAnotherFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Threads already up Windy. Be careful not contradict yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 minute ago, JustAnotherFan said: Windy. Put together a list of GM's that you consider better than Pace, with detailed reasons as to why. And then we'll go back and check your posts and revisit them How about that? Maybe on Monday. Prepare for a consistent theme of addressing QB and consistently being in the playoffs. It is year 6 of Pace’s regime and we are debating which QB will be less bad and maybe let us a rack into the playoffs. That isn’t good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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