D82 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, DaBoys said: Dak trucking LBs as he plods down the field really cocas my cola. He was pretty tremendous in 2019. I, as you know, was one of his biggest haters. I have changed my mind. He is good. I don’t know what he’s asking for though From everything I have gathered, it isn't the money that is the issue. I think he's comfortable with $35MM per year, but he wants a 4 year deal so he can get another bigger extension sooner rather than 5 years (which is what the team wants). The fact that Jerry and Co. are hard-balling so hard over ONE year, is just...asinine. They've done really well this year, but they've bungled the contract situation with their franchise QB. A deal will get done, no doubt...but the fact that it's taking this long over something so simple is just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, DaBoys said: Even if I thought they could hold a candle ... did they have Tyron Smith, Travis Fredbeard, Zack Martin, La’El Collins, a HOF TE, Ezekiel Elliott type decoys? No. They weren’t holding candles They had Whitworth, Zeitler, Boling, and Eifert. Also, Witten averaged sub-9 YPC two of the last three years while not playing the other one. You're kind of making my original point by listing guys who are ten times as famous playing for the Cowboys as they might be playing for the Bengals. Cincinnati circa 2014-15 had a better, more complete roster than we've had since probably 2007 and Dalton failed to muster a single playoff win. There is nothing to see here, no speculation worth having 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, D82 said: From everything I have gathered, it isn't the money that is the issue. I think he's comfortable with $35MM per year, but he wants a 4 year deal so he can get another bigger extension sooner rather than 5 years (which is what the team wants). The fact that Jerry and Co. are hard-balling so hard over ONE year, is just...asinine. They've done really well this year, but they've bungled the contract situation with their franchise QB. A deal will get done, no doubt...but the fact that it's taking this long over something so simple is just stupid. Jerry and Co at the very least we know want to win by putting out team in the best possible position with favorable contract. If it's such a small thing and so stupid then why doesn't Dak just take one for the team? You can't sit there and say he's being a team player by squabbling over one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtnldave Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, D82 said: From everything I have gathered, it isn't the money that is the issue. I think he's comfortable with $35MM per year, but he wants a 4 year deal so he can get another bigger extension sooner rather than 5 years (which is what the team wants). The fact that Jerry and Co. are hard-balling so hard over ONE year, is just...asinine. They've done really well this year, but they've bungled the contract situation with their franchise QB. A deal will get done, no doubt...but the fact that it's taking this long over something so simple is just stupid. This tells me they are not 100% committed to Prescott, for whatever reason. You can't be this brilliant in the draft and FA but have butterfingers with your most important position. Something isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, matt79511 said: They had Whitworth, Zeitler, Boling, and Eifert. Also, Witten averaged sub-9 YPC two of the last three years while not playing the other one. You're kind of making my original point by listing guys who are ten times as famous playing for the Cowboys as they might be playing for the Bengals. Cincinnati circa 2014-15 had a better, more complete roster than we've had since probably 2007 and Dalton failed to muster a single playoff win. There is nothing to see here, no speculation worth having Did you ever get a chance to watch the 2014 Cowboys ? Edited May 3, 2020 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rtnldave said: This tells me they are not 100% committed to Prescott, for whatever reason. You can't be this brilliant in the draft and FA but have butterfingers with your most important position. Something isn't right. Then why not take a QB? Try and trade up for one? No. They're committed to Dak. If I'm not mistaken the Lawrence deal took a while to get done too...sometimes this front office is just cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Jerry and Co at the very least we know want to win by putting out team in the best possible position with favorable contract. If it's such a small thing and so stupid then why doesn't Dak just take one for the team? You can't sit there and say he's being a team player by squabbling over one year. Dude, NFL players have such a short shelf life. Sure, Dak has been injury free during his entire career here. But one play and he could never play again. I would never fault a guy for trying to get all he can while he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rtnldave said: This tells me they are not 100% committed to Prescott, for whatever reason. You can't be this brilliant in the draft and FA but have butterfingers with your most important position. Something isn't right. To be clear, their desire to sign Dak to a longer contract makes you question their commitment to him? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, D82 said: Dude, NFL players have such a short shelf life. Sure, Dak has been injury free during his entire career here. But one play and he could never play again. I would never fault a guy for trying to get all he can while he can. And none of his teammates are against him either. Which says all that needs to be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, D82 said: From everything I have gathered, it isn't the money that is the issue. I think he's comfortable with $35MM per year, but he wants a 4 year deal so he can get another bigger extension sooner rather than 5 years (which is what the team wants). The fact that Jerry and Co. are hard-balling so hard over ONE year, is just...asinine. They've done really well this year, but they've bungled the contract situation with their franchise QB. A deal will get done, no doubt...but the fact that it's taking this long over something so simple is just stupid. Question for you and not being sarcastic at all. Many posters (not saying you) has said sign Dak now because in a few years his deal will look like peanuts. Well if we give him a 4 year $160 million deal, when does this deal look like peanuts when we have to come back to the table in 3 years an renegotiate? I'm all for paying Dak but if were giving him that type of money on a short term deal, can he continue to win with lesser parts around him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: To be clear, their desire to sign Dak to a longer contract makes you question their commitment to him? No. I think the point is just if the money is all figured out and were just talking the difference of 1 year then why not just give it to him. The longer the deal benefits the team so we dont have to re-up so quickly. Also allows us to move money down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Did you ever get a chance to watch the 2014 Cowboys ? I did. Defense is a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 All the hand-wring will be for not if the deal gets done by July 15th. Do any of you seriously care if the deal happens tomorrow or May 15th or June 15th or July 15th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, CAPJ said: Question for you and not being sarcastic at all. Many posters (not saying you) has said sign Dak now because in a few years his deal will look like peanuts. Well if we give him a 4 year $160 million deal, when does this deal look like peanuts when we have to come back to the table in 3 years an renegotiate? I'm all for paying Dak but if were giving him that type of money on a short term deal, can he continue to win with lesser parts around him? The cap will continue to go up. We can afford to sign the guys we want and draft replacements for the ones we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, D82 said: The cap will continue to go up. We can afford to sign the guys we want and draft replacements for the ones we don't. But as the cap goes up, everyone else wants more as well. If this is never a big deal and the cap continues to go up, then why do teams not have cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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