SteelKing728 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Virginia Viking said: I guess I need to ask, which Josh Gordon vibes? The vibes that he has all the potential to be great? Or, the vibes that lead you to think that he has behavior issues and substance issues that will keep him from living up to his potential? If he is giving off the later vibes, I want nothing to do with him. Super talented with a 10 cent head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) Its pick 1.14 Christian Darrisaw, Christian Barmore, Rashawn Slater and Gregory Rousseau are on the board. These are Minnesota's top targets left on the board. Who are you taking and why? Edited March 4, 2021 by SteelKing728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikes22 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: Its pick 1.14 Christian Darrisaw, Christian Barmore, Rashawn Slater and Gregory Rousseau are on the board. Who are you taking and why? I’m leaning towards Barmore. We were 27th against the run last year and had absolutely no pressure on the QB. Barmore along with the return of Pierce and Hunter will be a huge difference.. Plus, I hope we address our other DE in FA. ( I’m hoping for Trey Hendrickson or Romeo Okwara ) I think we can find our other pieces in the later rounds ( S, OG, and depth). Thats my pick.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 8 hours ago, SemperFeist said: A great breakdown from one of the best, talking about two of the most frequently mocked offensive linemen to Minnesota. I would be fine with either one, Darrisaw has potential as a tackle, Vera-Tucker I do not think does, no way as a LT like Darrisaw could do down the road or he could be a guard also. Still not sure why so many hate on Alex Leatherwood who was a better LT than either one of these guys in college and arguably better as a guard also. Or Wyatt Davis who is arguably the best OG in the draft and has played at a high level for a long time. Ideally Leatherwood or Davis do drop into the 2nd and Vikings make some trade, move out of the 14th pick and get a 2nd round pick and take one of those two who would be total steals at that point. But fact is whoever times out best in that top range of OL prospects Vikings will probably take. Whoever is the most athletic of the group considering who they have went for in the past. 33 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: Its pick 1.14 Christian Darrisaw, Christian Barmore, Rashawn Slater and Gregory Rousseau are on the board. These are Minnesota's top targets left on the board. Who are you taking and why? Hard to say because no athletic testing has been done, really that does greatly matter. How elite are you compared to other guys at you position in speed, strength, leaping ability, agility etc. That will tell a lot about who goes where. Out of these four would be very damn hard to pass on Slater even though not sure Slater could play guard he is arguably the best player on this board, he is an elite LT talent with great feet and great upside. Slater is the clear #2 OL prospect in the draft so would be very hard to pass on him if he is around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 I don't care as much about the athletic testing, because that only will help validate what you see on the tape. Unless there's some huge red flag discrepancy from what's on the tape, the comparison to other guys at the same position isn't all that relevant. But, with the 4 guys listed, Slater is clearly above the others and would be the guy I'd take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) a.) Barmore b.) Slater c.) Darrisaw d.) Rousseau That would be the order that I’d take those players. Edited March 4, 2021 by SemperFeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 49 minutes ago, swede700 said: I don't care as much about the athletic testing, because that only will help validate what you see on the tape. Unless there's some huge red flag discrepancy from what's on the tape, the comparison to other guys at the same position isn't all that relevant. But, with the 4 guys listed, Slater is clearly above the others and would be the guy I'd take. I agree. Time and again we here coaches and scouts say that watching game tape and the face to face interview are what settles a FO on their picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Testing either checks a box or makes you go back and see why the film doesn’t match the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 hours ago, swede700 said: I don't care as much about the athletic testing, because that only will help validate what you see on the tape. Unless there's some huge red flag discrepancy from what's on the tape, the comparison to other guys at the same position isn't all that relevant. But, with the 4 guys listed, Slater is clearly above the others and would be the guy I'd take. You might not care about it, but have you seen how the Vikings have picked as their offensive lineman in the 1st or 2nd round recently? All did great or were at or near the top of athletic testing for their position group. Clearly they believe athletic OL fit their zone blocking scheme, now in terms of pass pro it has been awful which is a bit odd. Still athletic testing secures a prospect, makes it a little more safe to take him because they are physically elite. Most great players in the NFL showed out very well athletically and most great players on the Vikings did exactly that. To disregard it well yeah it does matter. Player A is faster than player B, guess who gest to the end zone first. Do you need to be a track guy, no but proving your equal or greater than your peers athletically is never a bad thing. Danielle Hunter showed that and not a surprise he has done so well as a professional with such great athletic skill. To say how those OL run does not matter in who the Vikings pick, well I feel yeah it kind of does. If Wyatt Davis runs a sub 4.9 40, it will get many individuals attention and move him right into 1st round consideration potentially. Sure it has to match the tape and everything, but also makes it a little more comfortable taking a guy when he plays at an elite level and physically is at an elite level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 22 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: Its pick 1.14 Christian Darrisaw, Christian Barmore, Rashawn Slater and Gregory Rousseau are on the board. These are Minnesota's top targets left on the board. Who are you taking and why? 1)Slater 2)Darrisaw 3)Rousseau 4)Darrisaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Tommy Doyle, OT Miami OH. Honestly never have heard of the guy before, and apparently had a great season this year. Huge dude and local Edina kid, could be one to watch will have to look into his tape some more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meixdaddy_10 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 hours ago, CriminalMind said: 1)Slater 2)Darrisaw 3)Rousseau 4)Darrisaw You really like Darrisaw, dont you? 😃 That's ok, I do too. But on this list I'd put him at just 2 and not 4. I'd put Barmore 3 and Rousseau at 4. Just my two cents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Yup, Slater/Darrisaw would be no-brainer picks for me at 14. 1. Slater 2. Darrisaw 3. Barmore 4. Rousseau 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Slater is a no brainer, but I'm not sure about Darrisaw in terms of where his future would be with the team if they keep Riley Reiff for, say, another three years? You've already got Cleveland who may or may not be a future tackle. Slater I'm very positive could kick inside to guard and be very, very good. If they sign Reiff to an extension, someone like Vera-Tucker makes more sense than Darrisaw for me. Would be a plug and play left guard, who could kick out to tackle if you feel he could have a post-Reiff future there. Same with Slater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 True, it does depend on what happens with Reiff regarding a potential Darrisaw selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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