Freakout Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Body control and balance are the knocks on Leatherwood, and likely why he’s not seen as a first rounder. There’s no denying Leatherwood’s size and athleticism, but he gets in trouble quite a bit with over extending, getting his pads out in front of his feet, and lunging. There’s certainly a lot to work with, but there’s also a lot to work on. Players like Vera-Tucker, at this point, are more technically sound and proficient. To be fair the same can be said about Cosmi and yet he has been climbing the boards. I kind of see where Ozzy is coming from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: Body control and balance are the knocks on Leatherwood, and likely why he’s not seen as a first rounder. There’s no denying Leatherwood’s size and athleticism, but he gets in trouble quite a bit with over extending, getting his pads out in front of his feet, and lunging. There’s certainly a lot to work with, but there’s also a lot to work on. Players like Vera-Tucker, at this point, are more technically sound and proficient. So if he lacks body control and balance why did he won the Outland trophy and was a 1st team All American? Granted if Sewell played he probably would have been the "LT" or top OL in those awards so there is that. Leatherwood played 832 snaps this season, allowed two sacks, missed three assignments and committed five penalties, surrendered 3 QB hurries and four pressures when arguably playing out of position all season as a LT. He is not a LT I feel and was out of position for most of his career. Anyone ever watch Taylor Lewan in college his senior year? The dude was 'off balance' quite a lot and gave up more than a few sacks in key games. Has not really hurt him in the NFL, only thing that has hurt him is literally injuries. I just feel Leatherwood is a OG all the way and should be considered as such. Would be more athletic and a better overall pass blocker than most guards and could do very well in a zone blocking scheme. Compare Leatherwood to Ezra Cleveland, Leatherwood is a little heaver, longer arms, bigger hands, higher vertical, better broad jump, and just a slightly slower 40 time. Cleveland is considered this top of the line athlete and Leatherwood is not. Just seems strange. Granted would be interesting how Leatherwood does in the bench. I think I showed it on here, Vera-Tucker got dominated and beat multiple times in that Pac-12 title game against an elite level rusher. He was absolutely off balance and out of place in that game and beat off the snap badly. Do no recall Leatherwood doing that in the SEC title game or national championship. Still both guys were playing out of position this year so is hard to get a real read on them. Still it is nuts, Vera-Tucker is considered this athletic versatile guard with a good upside and Leatherwood is what? Not an athletic LT with not much upside when really he is a very athletic OG with a lot of upside and tons of versatility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticNorseman Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 All the rave on Vera-Tucker is because of USC and his agent. I too think Leatherwood is a better prospect. And no, Vera Tucker isn't close to Nelson or a Hutch, IMO. If Leatherwood were drafted, I would hope it would be to start . . . Probably at LT. I kind of liked the way the right side worked toward the middle and end of the year. In any case, if they go OG in Rd 1, I'm feeling like they need to hit the well again in 3 or 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 All the "rave" on Vera-Tucker is because he can flat out play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just for my own reference here: AVT Leatherwood H: 6044 6051 W: 308 312 Bench: 36 NA Vertical: 32 34.5 Broad: 810 910 40: 5.1u 4.96u 20 split: 2.94u 2.84u 10 split: 1.77u 1.69u Shuttle: 4.61u NA 3-cone: 7.65u NA 2021 RAS: 9.17u 9.86u Taken from MathBomb's twitter account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithVikings28 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 If Micah Parsons is there at 14 we gotta take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 With Miami signing Will Fuller and NYG signing Golladay right now I'm thinking the top 3 tackles are going to be gone before we pick at 14. 3 - Sewel 5 - slater 11- Darrisaw If those top 3 are gone I hope we don't force AVT at pick 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidvikingfan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Well if we want DE early Oweh sure seems like the athletic coach him up type we like to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidvikingfan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, viking said: With Miami signing Will Fuller and NYG signing Golladay right now I'm thinking the top 3 tackles are going to be gone before we pick at 14. 3 - Sewel 5 - slater 11- Darrisaw If those top 3 are gone I hope we don't force AVT at pick 14 Signing a one year deal on Fuller in no way takes Miami off taking a WR or Pitts and the Giants took Andrew Thomas at 4 last year so I think they could take the top D-lineman. Also I don't think it is forcing anything taking Tucker he has been pegged as a top 15 pick type player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, solidvikingfan said: Signing a one year deal on Fuller in no way takes Miami off taking a WR or Pitts and the Giants took Andrew Thomas at 4 last year so I think they could take the top D-lineman. Also I don't think it is forcing anything taking Tucker he has been pegged as a top 15 pick type player. Taking Fuller lets them go BPA which would mean Sewel IMO. Giants are loaded with weapons and just signed leo williams to a huge deal, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they take the best OL available - they have to protect danny dimes Edited March 25, 2021 by viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakout Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, solidvikingfan said: Signing a one year deal on Fuller in no way takes Miami off taking a WR or Pitts and the Giants took Andrew Thomas at 4 last year so I think they could take the top D-lineman. Also I don't think it is forcing anything taking Tucker he has been pegged as a top 15 pick type player. I would be happy. Darrisaw and Tucker are both guards in my opinion. Between the two I prefer Tucker especially for our blocking scheme. Darrisaw just looks like he has heavy feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Freakout said: Darrisaw just looks like he has heavy feet. We'll know more tomorrow after the VT pro day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marshpit23 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 51 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Was this wind-aided? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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