tonyto36 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Ben, past 3 years, home and away splits, with difference in efficiency stats 2017: H: 23/35, 65.7%. 243 yards. 6.94 AVG. 2 TD 0 INT, 2 sacks. 104.8 rating A: 46/75, 61.3%. 498 yards. 6.64 AVG. 3 TD 1 INT, 4 sacks. 88.6 rating 2016: H: 160/226, 70.8%. 1915 yards. 8.47 AVG. 20 TD 5 INT, 7 sacks. 116.7 rating A: 168/283, 59.4%. 1904 yards. 6.73 AVG. 9 TD, 8 INT, 10 sacks. 78.4 rating D: -11.4%. -1.74 AVG. -11 TD. +3 INT. +3 sacks. -38.3 rating 2015: H: 159/243, 65.4%, 2088 yards. 8.59 AVG. 16 TD, 7 INT, 8 sacks. 102.4 rating A: 160/226, 70.8%, 1850 yards. 8.19 AVG. 5 TD, 9 INT, 12 sacks. 86.0 rating D: +5.4%. -0.4 AVG. -11 TD. +2 INT. +4 sacks. -16.4 rating 2014: H: 214/314, 68.2%. 2778 yards. 8.80 AVG. 25 TD, 3 INT. 21 sacks. 115.9 rating A: 194/294, 66.0%, 2174 yards. 6.69 AVG. 9 TD, 5 INT. 17 sacks. 91.0 rating D: -2.2%. -1.11 AVG. -16 TD. +2 INT. -4 sacks. -24.9 rating Some decline in stats should be expected, but the splits have been humongous for Ben at home vs away. Comparatively: Tom Brady: 2016: H: 112.6 rating A: 111.9 rating-0.7 2015: H: 102.0 rating A: 102.4 rating+0.4 2014: H: 103.8 rating A: 90.4 rating-13.4 Aaron Rodgers: 2016: H: 106.5 rating A: 101.9 rating-4.6 2015: H: 94.9 rating A: 90.2 rating-4.7 2014: H: 133.2 rating A: 94.2 rating-36.0 Matt Ryan: 2016: H: 119.1 rating A: 115.0 rating-4.1 2015: H: 90.2 rating A: 87.9 rating-2.3 2014: H: 99.6 rating A: 88.7 rating-10.9 Russell Wilson: 2016: H: 103.5 rating A: 82.1rating-21.4 2015: H: 112.4 rating A: 107.7 rating-4.7 2014: H: 80.8 rating A: 107.6 rating+26.8 Ryan Tannehill: 2016: H: 100.5 rating A: 86.7 rating-13.8 2015: H: 88.0 rating A: 89.4 rating+1.4 2014: H: 97.6 rating A: 88.1 rating-9.5 Drew Brees: 2016: H: 108.2 rating A: 95.7 rating-12.5 2015: H: 112.5 rating A: 87.7 rating-24.8 2014: H: 93.6 rating A: 101.0 rating+7.4 *I didn't do full stat break downs of all players to save time ---- I made sure to include some notable QBs that might have a distinguishable home field advantage (ie. weather/dome/fans). While there is going to be some variance to it, injuries, opponent, randomly bad/good games, there has been a pretty huge gap. Ben's splits are noticeably worse than everyone elses. He goes from being one of, if not the best QB at home in the league to worse than Tannehill away from home. Even Brees who is known for being a dome QB and has a history of terrible indoor/outdoor splits doesn't suffer as poorly as Ben does away from home. So what's the explanation? Could it be Tomlin is messing with the radio equipment at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 You know you could've very easily made this same topic without the snark and it would've been just as debate-worthy. It is pretty weird how much worse he's been on the road, and it really goes back to 2010 - every year since then, with the exception of 2012 his road rating has been at least 9 points worse. What's even weirder is that prior to 2010 he actually had reverse splits (better on the road every year except 2006). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Weird isn't it. HF advantage just really applies to certain players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 When did Belichick start coaching in Pittsburgh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 36 minutes ago, cddolphin said: When did Belichick start coaching in Pittsburgh? Maybe they did the brain swap surgery from Get Out (Apologies to anyone who hasn't seen Get Out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 35 minutes ago, Starless said: (Apologies to anyone who hasn't seen Get Out) You should apologize to anybody who has seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Phony-tuff Tomlin gets his guys up for home games just so he and they can get exposed in the playoffs year after year after year. Gotta think Big Ben is done after this year, and it will be interesting to watch phony coaching without one of the top QBs in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, cddolphin said: You should apologize to anybody who has seen it. You didn't like it? I thought it was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, cddolphin said: You should apologize to anybody who has seen it. Never understood the hype for that dreadful movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 38 minutes ago, TheOnlyThing said: Phony-tuff Tomlin gets his guys up for home games just so he and they can get exposed in the playoffs year after year after year. Gotta think Big Ben is done after this year, and it will be interesting to watch phony coaching without one of the top QBs in the game. The Steelers have been above 0.500 as a team without Roethlisberger starting and that is with the likes of Landry Jones and (35yo) Mike Vick starting. But yes, the Steelers will obviously be trash once Ben retires. Get that trash out of here. Ben is good, but so is Tomlin. He has had his let-down games, but overall he has done very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The Steelers have enough pieces in place to survive the initial transition from Roethlisberger to whomever, but if that "whomever" turns out to be trash, they'll be a bottom-5 team after a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 it's baffling and the offense as a whole is worse during early road games compared to primetime games on the road.. which makes no sense lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, skywlker32 said: The Steelers have been above 0.500 as a team without Roethlisberger starting and that is with the likes of Landry Jones and (35yo) Mike Vick starting. But yes, the Steelers will obviously be trash once Ben retires. Get that trash out of here. Ben is good, but so is Tomlin. He has had his let-down games, but overall he has done very well. Yeah, old phony-tuff Tomlin has been great in the playoffs the past decade where his great (4-3) defensive mind is on full display. His act has worn thin and it will wear out entirely and quickly once Ben is gone. But Tomlin will no doubt go on to coach another team or get into broadcasting with all the other over-hyped 1 Super Bowl win coaches like Billick, Dungy, and Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyto36 Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Starless said: It is pretty weird how much worse he's been on the road, and it really goes back to 2010 - every year since then, with the exception of 2012 his road rating has been at least 9 points worse. What's even weirder is that prior to 2010 he actually had reverse splits (better on the road every year except 2006). I was going to also post this but didn't have time. IIRC he was actually touted as this amazing "road warrior" earlier in his career. And now all of a sudden he's got horrible home/away splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, TheOnlyThing said: Yeah, old phony-tuff Tomlin has been great in the playoffs the past decade where his great (4-3) defensive mind is on full display. His act has worn thin and it will wear out entirely and quickly once Ben is gone. But Tomlin will no doubt go on to coach another team or get into broadcasting with all the other over-hyped 1 Super Bowl win coaches like Billick, Dungy, and Gruden. I posted facts and you come back with this? Go troll elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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