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Instant 2020 Expectations

What are your expectations for this team and why?  

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  1. 1. How you expect we finish?

    • 1st/2nd in the NFC - Superbowl Contender
    • 1st in the NFC East - Deep Playoff Run
    • Make Playoffs - Early Exit
    • Fringe Playoff Team - No Playoff Wins
    • 8-8
    • Losing Record
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  2. 2. Why do you feel this way? (Pick as many as you'd like)

    • Already Talented Roster
    • Amazing Draft
    • New Coaching Staff
    • Truncated Off-Season (Lack time for Workouts / Playbooks / Etc)
    • Uncertainty at Starting Positions (name them)
    • Strong NFC East Teams
    • Weak NFC East Teams
    • Lack of Depth


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Without really knowing more, and the uncertainty that looms ahead of 2020, what are your initial feelings? 

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I think, if there is even a season, a truncated off-season is going to hurt the team. I could see them still overcoming it and making the playoffs and at least getting one win...but don't think they go far. 

Although, I hope I'm wrong. 

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With Mcarthy as coach I’m more optimistic but it’s impossible to say really. So many questions with Dak who plays right end will the season start on time will they be able to pick up the new system on offense quickly ect. If all goes well I think they will win the division after that who knows. Keeping the clapper definitely held this team back the last few seasons. 

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4 hours ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said:

Without really knowing more, and the uncertainty that looms ahead of 2020, what are your initial feelings? 

With Dak or Dalton?

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I answered SB contender, but think that and 2nd choice of deep playoff run are one and same. This is of course ssuming everyone is healthy and the season (TC and games) run on a close to normal schedule. I freely admit, I've been down this road numerous times, but I do believe the coaching change will be a big breathe of fresh air  to an already talented roster. 

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Posted (edited)

Here are my thoughts

Pros:

  1. On paper, roster looks good to great
  2. Appears we have plugged almost every hole
  3. Upgrade potential at DT/S/WR
  4. Hopefully LBs can return to 2018 form
  5. Statistically Jawin > Witten last year

Negatives:

  1. Uncertainty at OL. Changes at C/LG along with both OTs having injuries recently
  2. Uncertainty at WR - CeeDee could bust; whats up with all the drops? 
  3. Can Jarwin be the guy full season?
  4. Defense in flux. ~5 new starters? Could be worse
  5. WTF happened to the LB play?
  6. ST was terrible. Did we upgrade?
  7. A lot of unproven depth, specifically on defense.
  8. Will the coaching staff have proper practice time to install?

With Dak: Compete for a divisional title 10ish wins

With Dalton: Compete for a top 10 draft pick with 6ish wins

Edited by Matts4313

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19 minutes ago, Matts4313 said:

Here are my thoughts

Pros:

  1. On paper, roster looks good to great
  2. Appears we have plugged almost every hole
  3. Upgrade potential at DT/S/WR
  4. Hopefully LBs can return to 2018 form
  5. Statistically Jawin > Witten last year

Negatives:

  1. Uncertainty at OL. Changes at C/LG along with both OTs having injuries recently
  2. Uncertainty at WR - CeeDee could bust; whats up with all the drops? 
  3. Can Jarwin be the guy full season?
  4. Defense in flux. ~5 new starters? Could be worse
  5. WTF happened to the LB play?
  6. ST was terrible. Did we upgrade?
  7. A lot of unproven depth, specifically on defense.
  8. Will the coaching staff have proper practice time to install?

With Dak: Compete for a divisional title 10ish wins

With Dalton: Compete for a top 10 draft pick with 6ish wins

Between offense, defense, and special teams, ST has to be the unit most influenced by coaching by far. Going from completely overmatched Keith O'Quinn to highly respected John Fassel looks like one of our single biggest offseason upgrades. Not to mention having a camp competition between two legit kickers instead of Brett Maher with no competition.

To me, point 8 is the only reason we wouldn't be significantly better than last year. It would be highly improbable for an 8-8 team with a +113 point differential to *not* win 2-3 more games the next year (at least) under normal circumstances, regardless of roster attrition/free agent losses.

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Dalton 11-5/12-4

Dak 9-7/10-6

Both QB's go 5-1/6-0 against the NFC Least

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Looking at our opponents, not knowing what in the hell September is going to look like, new HC, new staff, great draft, good FA signings, Smith and Gregory up in the air, is Zeke overweight again, Fredrick retired, ..........

Let's see, is there any more **** we can pile on this? Is it possible?

Low end: 8-8

High end: 11-5

Could it go either direction lower or higher?

Sure, but I'm leaning toward 11-5.

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2 hours ago, TheGame316 said:

Dalton 11-5/12-4

Dak 9-7/10-6

Both QB's go 5-1/6-0 against the NFC Least

Really? You think Dak could still post a wining record this year? You know he costs $31M against the cap right now, right? It is literally impossible for that to happen

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2 hours ago, TheGame316 said:

Dalton 11-5/12-4

Dak 9-7/10-6

Both QB's go 5-1/6-0 against the NFC Least

 

 

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2 hours ago, matt79511 said:

Really? You think Dak could still post a wining record this year? You know he costs $31M against the cap right now, right? It is literally impossible for that to happen

We still got enough young/cheap talent on the roster that we'll have to make hard decisions and lose some of with a 36-38 Million QB

For now, The roster might be good enough to lift a QB like Dak to 9-7, which is currently his rolling 3 year average anyways

 

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4 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said:

Guys. Take it to another one of your 20 threads about QBs. 

You never answered. Should we assume Dak or Dalton for the original question? 

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