dll2000 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 So its still a 53 man roster, but you can have 55 by elevating practice squad players. But catch I think is you can't keep elevating same guys or they become permanent active players. It's all kind of confusing. It is best explained here with a quick search: https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/5/3/21245216/explaining-the-roster-sizes-and-practice-squad-rules-under-the-new-cba So for now I will speculatively create 53 slots and 12 PS slots and the 12 PS players will get moved around strategically by Pace and Nagy throughout season. This is first one - May 7, 2020 QB 1. Foles 2. MT RB 3. Montgomery 4. Cohen 5. Some vet not on team right now - I don't think they go with Nall as back up RB. FB 6. Holtz OL 7. Leno 8. Daniels 9. Whitehair 10. Ifedi 11. Massie 12. Bars 13. Spriggs 14. Coward 15. Levin WR 16. Robinson 17. Miller 18. Ginn 19. Ridley 20. Patterson 21. Mooney TE 22. Graham 23. Kmet 24. Harris 25. Horstead DL 26. Hicks 27. Goldman 28. Nichols 29. Anderson 30. RRH Edge 31. Mack 32. Quinn 33. Mingo 34. Gipson ILB 35. Smith 36. Trevathan 37. Woods 38. Iyiegbuniwe CB 39. Fuller 40. Skrine 41. Johnson 42. Shelley 43. Vildor 44. Tolliver 45. Burns S 46. Jackson 47. Gipson 48. Bush 49. Lucas 50. McManis ST 51. Pat 52. Eddie 53. Scales PS - Aside from late round draft picks of last two years I have no idea who they will want on PS. I could be wrong on this because I don't know all current rules on veterans. 1. Bray - QB 2. Hambright -OL 3 Simmons - OL 4. Mustipher OL 5. Wims - WR 6. Nall - RB 7. Denmark - CB/S 8. Roberson - CB 9. Vaughters - Edge 10. Jenkins - DL 11. Urban - DL 12. ?????? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 Starting job/roster battles: QB will be biggest of course. Most people think it will be Foles. Some think it is already decided. Playing time at WR after Robinson and Miller is up for grabs I think. I think Ridley and Wims are battling for one spot with Ridley having leg up being the higher and more recent draft pick. I think in no way as he actually out played Wims though - ironically in college or pros. But still is thought of more highly. You have to think the veteran Ginn is making the team and will probably be #3 unless Patterson improves as a WR. Patterson makes it regardless because he is best non-kicking ST player in the league and also provides some value as WR and RB. Mooney makes it because of draft status and gets a shot to impress and earn some playing time in pre-season. I think Anderson showed well last year at DL in preseason and practice. I think he makes it this year. I think Gipson gets 4th edge spot due to draft status. Vaughters is probably better right now. They seem to always like Irving, why I don't know. Our current depth at ILB has not performed great. They are athletic though. Hopefully they are better this year. Our CB room just got really young overall and kind of small, but tenacious. That should be one of most interesting camp positions to watch. I think coaches currently envision our TEs being a rotation Graham, Harris and Kmet. I believe Horstead and Holtz will make a case otherwise in preseason, whether coaches value practice and preseason play or not remains to be seen. They didn't care about Bars last year. OL RG battle I think goes to Ifedi who they have already mentally penciled in there. Keep a watch on Bars and Levin in preseason and camp though. I think they have talent. Of course Coward is defending starter as well. Spriggs may be most athletic linemen on the entire team. He just can't play football. But maybe he figures it out this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Rosters now allow for 55 players so I can see Roberson and Wims making the cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Why do you have McManis at S? I think they keep Fuller, Johnson, Toliver, Shelley and McManis & try to stash Vildor. Roberson and Denmark get cut (although I can see them trying to convert Denmark to S) Edited May 8, 2020 by beardown3231 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I'm pretty surprised some of you guys have Roberson getting cut...I see him easily making the roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbrandonf123 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 7 hours ago, dll2000 said: So its still a 53 man roster, but you can have 55 by elevating practice squad players. But catch I think is you can't keep elevating same guys or they become permanent active players. It's all kind of confusing. It is best explained here with a quick search: https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/5/3/21245216/explaining-the-roster-sizes-and-practice-squad-rules-under-the-new-cba So for now I will speculatively create 53 slots and 12 PS slots and the 12 PS players will get moved around strategically by Pace and Nagy throughout season. This is first one - May 7, 2020 QB 1. Foles 2. MT RB 3. Montgomery 4. Cohen 5. Some vet not on team right now - I don't think they go with Nall as back up RB. FB 6. Holtz OL 7. Leno 8. Daniels 9. Whitehair 10. Ifedi 11. Massie 12. Bars 13. Spriggs 14. Coward 15. Levin WR 16. Robinson 17. Miller 18. Ginn 19. Ridley 20. Patterson 21. Mooney TE 22. Graham 23. Kmet 24. Harris 25. Horstead DL 26. Hicks 27. Goldman 28. Nichols 29. Anderson 30. RRH Edge 31. Mack 32. Quinn 33. Mingo 34. Gipson ILB 35. Smith 36. Trevathan 37. Woods 38. Iyiegbuniwe CB 39. Fuller 40. Skrine 41. Johnson 42. Shelley 43. Vildor 44. Tolliver 45. Burns S 46. Jackson 47. Gipson 48. Bush 49. Lucas 50. McManis ST 51. Pat 52. Eddie 53. Scales PS - Aside from late round draft picks of last two years I have no idea who they will want on PS. I could be wrong on this because I don't know all current rules on veterans. 1. Bray - QB 2. Hambright -OL 3 Simmons - OL 4. Mustipher OL 5. Wims - WR 6. Nall - RB 7. Denmark - CB/S 8. Roberson - CB 9. Vaughters - Edge 10. Jenkins - DL 11. Urban - DL 12. ?????? I think Roberson or Denmark will make the 53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbrandonf123 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 7 hours ago, dll2000 said: So its still a 53 man roster, but you can have 55 by elevating practice squad players. But catch I think is you can't keep elevating same guys or they become permanent active players. It's all kind of confusing. It is best explained here with a quick search: https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/5/3/21245216/explaining-the-roster-sizes-and-practice-squad-rules-under-the-new-cba So for now I will speculatively create 53 slots and 12 PS slots and the 12 PS players will get moved around strategically by Pace and Nagy throughout season. This is first one - May 7, 2020 QB 1. Foles 2. MT RB 3. Montgomery 4. Cohen 5. Some vet not on team right now - I don't think they go with Nall as back up RB. FB 6. Holtz OL 7. Leno 8. Daniels 9. Whitehair 10. Ifedi 11. Massie 12. Bars 13. Spriggs 14. Coward 15. Levin WR 16. Robinson 17. Miller 18. Ginn 19. Ridley 20. Patterson 21. Mooney TE 22. Graham 23. Kmet 24. Harris 25. Horstead DL 26. Hicks 27. Goldman 28. Nichols 29. Anderson 30. RRH Edge 31. Mack 32. Quinn 33. Mingo 34. Gipson ILB 35. Smith 36. Trevathan 37. Woods 38. Iyiegbuniwe CB 39. Fuller 40. Skrine 41. Johnson 42. Shelley 43. Vildor 44. Tolliver 45. Burns S 46. Jackson 47. Gipson 48. Bush 49. Lucas 50. McManis ST 51. Pat 52. Eddie 53. Scales PS - Aside from late round draft picks of last two years I have no idea who they will want on PS. I could be wrong on this because I don't know all current rules on veterans. 1. Bray - QB 2. Hambright -OL 3 Simmons - OL 4. Mustipher OL 5. Wims - WR 6. Nall - RB 7. Denmark - CB/S 8. Roberson - CB 9. Vaughters - Edge 10. Jenkins - DL 11. Urban - DL 12. ?????? And what about the veteran John Jenkins we signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: I'm pretty surprised some of you guys have Roberson getting cut...I see him easily making the roster. Roberson makes the roster unless he ****s the bed. If they don't sign, and carry, a third QB I may scream until my lungs bleed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBears019 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 34 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: Roberson makes the roster unless he ****s the bed. If they don't sign, and carry, a third QB I may scream until my lungs bleed. I have a feeling your lungs will be bleeding then. They had their chances to bring in developmental 3rd stringer. Fromm, McDonald, Stanley, etc. but they chose not to. They’re content with Tyler bray apparently. Im with you, I’d love for someone else on the roster with a sliver of hope that he could be developed into something worthwhile. But that’s not happening it appears. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ba_ba_ba_BOOM Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I think both Roberson and Jenkins will be part of the active roster on gamedays. I am working on an analysis of ST snap counts over the last 2 years to see if we can get an idea of how the bottom of the roster might fill out. The 12-man PS and new rules with that will be interesting to consider. I wonder if they could form a platoon of ST contributors rotating in from the PS. Regardless, will be interesting to see if Nagy & co. look at the PS changes as a way to enhance roster flexibility or if they continue using it primarily as developmental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 My best guess right now... QB…Nick Foles…Mitch Trubisky RB…David Montgomery…Tarik Cohen…Artavis Pierce (Not on Roster Vet) H-Back…J.P Holtz WR…Allen Robinson…Javon Wims WR…Anthony Miller…Riley Ridley WR…Ted Ginn Jr…Darnell Mooney…Cordarrelle Patterson (KR/PR/WR/RB) TE…Jimmy Graham…Cole Kmet…Demetrius Harris LT…Charles Leno…Jason Spriggs LG…James Daniels C…Cody Whitehair RG…Germain Ifedi…Alex Bars RT…Bobby Massie…Rashaad Coward LE…Bilal Nichols …Trevon McSwain NT…Eddie Goldman…John Jenkins RE…Akiem Hicks…Roy Robertson-Harris LOLB…Khalil Mack…Trevin Gipson ILB…Roquan Smith…Joel Iyiegbuniwe ILB…Danny Trevathan…Josh Woods (Not on Roster Vet) ROLB…Robert Quinn…Keke Mingo NB…Buster Skrine…Kindle Vildor CB…Kyle Fuller…Tre Roberson…Kevin Toliver CB…Jaylon Johnson…Artie Burns SS…Tashaun Gipson…Deon Bush FS…Eddie Jackson…Jordan Lucas…DeAndre Houston-Carson P...Pat O'Donnell K...Eddy Pineiro LS...Patrick Scales I reckon Horsted & Shelley come up from the PS on game days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 7 WR and 12 DBs is a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 52 minutes ago, WindyCity said: 7 WR and 12 DBs is a lot. It is but why give away talent? Especially guys who should be quality special teamers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) Roberson is not getting cut. He was a highly touted player who won't cost anything. There is a reason why nearly half of the NFL showed interest in him. If any corner should be on the bubble it's Atie Burns. That would be an addition by subtraction. QB: Mitch, Foles, Bray RB: Montgomery, Cohen, FA (Dev Freeman, Lamar Miller), Pierce WR: Arob, Miller, Wims, Ridley, Mooney, Patterson, Ginn TE: Kmet, Graham, Harris, Holtz, Horsted (Braunecker if he is still on the team) OL: Whitehair, Daniels, Leno, Massie, Ifedi, Coward, Bars, Spriggs, FA pickup DL: Hicks, Goldman, Nichols, RRH, Anderson, Urban LB: Mack, Quinn, Smith, DT, Irving, Woods, Mingo, Vaughters (Not sure Iggy even makes the team) CB: Fuller, Jaylon, Skrine, Roberson, Toliver, Vildor S: Eddie, Gipson, Bush, Brice, Lucas, K: Pineiro P: O'Donnell LS: Scales G: McManis --I really want Pace to sign either Freeman or Miller as a stop-gap at RB. Would prefer Miller since his skill set is better suited but either would be a good addition. --If teams were able to have a full offseason then I don't think Ginn makes the roster--either that or Patterson and his contract are gone. But seeing as how Miller, Wims, Ridley, and Mooney are still learning and practices are limited this offseason, his experience as a vet is considered an asset. --TE looks okay with me (lacking a traditional U tho). Kmet starts as the Y with Harris and Holtz as depth (Holtz can also play the H in certain packages like last year), and Graham as the starting U with Horsted as depth. --I'm fine with Idefi as a starter at RG. I just wish we had the money to sign Larry Warford because I would be more comfortable with Idefi as swing RG/RT because our depth looks downright ugly right now. Bars and Coward are liabilities and Spriggs is garbage. --DL looks fine. Hopefully Hicks and Nichols can stay healthy this year. --ILB depth could be a problem if DT or Smith are out for any extended time but the rest of the group is fine. --Can't wait to see Fuller, Eddie, Jaylon, Skrine, and Gipson shut down the secondary with good depth behind them as insurances as well. Edited May 9, 2020 by JustAnotherFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) @JustAnotherFan unless I'm missing something they do have the money for Warford (assuming he doesn't want a ton). Edited May 9, 2020 by beardown3231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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