Jim Harbaugh’s College Football Proposal

[catcheryea]

9 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said:

Watching Browns and Bengals fans argue that the NFL has unmatched parity is the most advanced form of Stockholm Syndrome I've ever seen in my life.

seeing pistons fans say they should resign both morris twins every year is pretty high up there

[BobbyPhil1781]

6 minutes ago, catcheryea said:

this is... exactly how recruiting works

And the talent pool and options available are substantially larger.

[BobbyPhil1781]

15 minutes ago, minutemancl said:

There's a salary cap that already prevents stuff like this from happening.

I've heard the 'get rid of the draft' argument applied to basketball, and at first I didn't agree, but after it was explained to me, I was totally onboard. I could see the same thing working in the NFL. 

As far as Harbaugh's proposal, I like it. But, I'd like any proposal that takes away power from the NCAA.

And there's ways to circumvent taking huge cap hits.

[catcheryea]

2 minutes ago, JTagg7754 said:

And the talent pool and options available are substantially larger.

which is exactly why we see 4 different teams in the playoff every year?

[Thelonebillsfan]

1 hour ago, JTagg7754 said:

That doesn't necessarily mean the same would happen here. Maybe you could be a little more specific in what you're referring to but in most European football leagues, parity is almost non-existent as far as the champs are concerned. If it wasn't for Tom Brady and Co going on a run like the sport has never seen, the opposite would be true here.

"If it wasn't for literally the exact thing that happens everywhere else happening here in terms of there being no actual "parity", we'd have parity!"

The Patriots this decade were in every single AFCCG except one lmao. 

Edited May 8, 2020 by Thelonebillsfan

[Thelonebillsfan]

If the draft existing had literally any tangible impact on the concept of parity the Browns wouldn't suck as much as they do and it wouldn't have taken the Rams 15 years to stop being awful.

The draft exists to supplement the work force cheaply and rotate talent on the cheap, not as some competitive balancing tool.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Thelonebillsfan

[Thelonebillsfan]

1 hour ago, JoshstraDaymus said:

Small market teams would have a higher risk at becoming nonexistent based on your desires here by the way.

A) There is no such thing as a "small market" NFL team, all these teams make a crapload of money, even the Chargers, B) name the last "small market" by your standards team to even make the Superbowl. 

[ramssuperbowl99]

10 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

If the draft existing had literally any tangible impact on the concept of parity the Browns wouldn't suck as much as they do and it wouldn't have taken the Rams 15 years to stop being awful.

The draft exists to supplement the work force cheaply and rotate talent on the cheap, not as some competitive balancing tool.

The math bears this out, and you can say something similar about the salary cap too.

http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2016/12/which-sports-league-has-the-most-parity/

The MLB, NFL, and NHL all had virtually identical parity despite the draft mattering a little bit in MLB, a little more in NHL, and a ton in the NFL and despite the NFL having a hard cap, NHL having a crazy weird cap, and the MLB having no cap.

Put another way: if the NFL draft and salary cap are intended to increase parity, then they're each failing.

[ramssuperbowl99]

1 minute ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

A) There is no such thing as a "small market" NFL team, all these teams make a crapload of money, even the Chargers, B) name the last "small market" by your standards team to even make the Superbowl. 

You could argue the Raiders because they are owned by a cash poor idiot who is the primary reason his dad's soul can't leave Earth yet.

[Thelonebillsfan]

Just now, ramssuperbowl99 said:

You could argue the Raiders because they are owned by a cash poor idiot who is the primary reason his dad's soul can't leave Earth yet.

Even then thanks to all the *cough* "incentives" *cough* he'll be getting from LV will solve that cash problem for him. And in this context "cash poor" is still relative because Raiders operational revenue last year was still like $340M which is double the operational revenue of Man U and Man City.

All major North American sports leagues run on the same fundamental concept to be "good", spend your money wisely and know how to market yourself. It's not rocket science, the Browns are a "small  market" team that gets marquee free agents every single year. They suck because they're run by incompetents. Not because of some mythical aversion players have towards gobs and gobs of money to live in Cleveland for 5 months a year.

[ramssuperbowl99]

1 minute ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

Even then thanks to all the *cough* "incentives" *cough* he'll be getting from LV will solve that cash problem for him. And in this context "cash poor" is still relative because Raiders operational revenue last year was still like $340M which is double the operational revenue of Man U and Man City.

All major North American sports leagues run on the same fundamental concept to be "good", spend your money wisely and know how to market yourself. It's not rocket science, the Browns are a "small  market" team that gets marquee free agents every single year. They suck because they're run by incompetents. Not because of some mythical aversion players have towards gobs and gobs of money to live in Cleveland for 5 months a year.

The face of NFL free agency is the Jacksonville ******* Jaguars but apparently people think players are taking pay cuts left and right to win one more game. 

[Thelonebillsfan]

The New York Knicks were literally the richest sports franchise in North America until like 3 years ago (now they're in the lowly position of 3rd) and they can't get better than Julius Randal to sign with them. Players don't give a flying **** about image or branding or any of that stuff beyond making it a financial opportunity, they care, overwhelmingly, about money and fit because this is more than just wanting to live somewhere nice, it's about where you're going to spend the most important years of your professional life. And money is like 80% of that equation.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Thelonebillsfan

[JammerHammer21]

8 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said:

The math bears this out, and you can say something similar about the salary cap too.

http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2016/12/which-sports-league-has-the-most-parity/

The MLB, NFL, and NHL all had virtually identical parity despite the draft mattering a little bit in MLB, a little more in NHL, and a ton in the NFL and despite the NFL having a hard cap, NHL having a crazy weird cap, and the MLB having no cap.

Put another way: if the NFL draft and salary cap are intended to increase parity, then they're each failing.

...shut up, science *****!

[Thelonebillsfan]

Also most of these guys don't even live in these cities full time lmao, they rent a place for 4 months and then go live wherever else cause they're ******* rich.

[winitall]

To be honest, removing the draft would probably increase parity. Adding Joe Burrow to the Titans or Vikings would give another legitimate super bowl contender to the mix.