rocky_rams Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Who do you think are/were head coaches that people rate high that may be not as highly regarded as they have been made out to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Bill Bellicheck. He's nothing without his hoodie we all know this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomatic Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Tom Flores and Don Coryell. Tom Flores has a meager .527 winning percentage, only five playoff appearances in 12 seasons, and only one playoff win outside of his two Super Bowl championship runs. In spite of all that, many people insist that he belongs in the Hall of Fame. As for Don Coryell, name me one Hall-of-Fame head coach who has never coached in a Super Bowl, or a pre-Super Bowl NFL or AFL Championship Game. The only other head coaches among the 50 winningest who haven't are Marty Schottenheimer, Chuck Knox, Marvin Lewis, Jim Mora, Dennis Green and Jack Del Rio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Don Shula. Got thoroughly outcoached by Weeb Ewbank of all people in Super Bowl 3. Baltimore won the Super Bowl the year after he left. 20 years with Johnny Unitas and Dan Marino, 0-2 in Super Bowls. Granted he won 2 with Bob Griese, to go 0-1 with Dan ******* Marino is one of life's biggest mysteries. Edited May 11, 2020 by Elky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Tony Dungy Couldn't get over the hump in Tampa Had Manning and an unreal offense but couldn't build a defense in Indy that could hold up when the offense wasn't putting up a ton of points Could never adjust the teams gameplan when it had to go into an inevitable cold weather game somewhere come playoff time Killed his teams momentum when he'd rest players especially when they were heading for 16-0 just to flame out in the playoffs Edited May 11, 2020 by TheGame316 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheGame316 said: Tony Dungy Couldn't get over the hump in Tampa Had Manning and an unreal offense but couldn't build a defense in Indy that could hold up when the offense wasn't putting up a ton of points Could never adjust the teams gameplan when it had to go into an inevitable cold weather game somewhere come playoff time Killed his teams momentum twice when they were heading for 16-0 just to flame out in the playoffs This is a myth. Indy had terrific defenses in 05, 07 and I think 08 as well. The defense coming to life in 06 is why they won the Super Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Mike Ditka. Ditka's name will always be associated with the Bears franchise because of the 85 SB win but that SB win was more of a credit to Buddy Ryan's defense. They should have won another SB but it was Ditka's (with the help of McCaskey) hard-headed attitude and failure to adjust his plans in game that kept that from happening. Another name I would throw out there is Marty Shottenheimer(sp). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, Elky said: The defense coming to life in 06 is why they won the Super Bowl. Wait, what? They had one of the worst defenses in the league that year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Elky said: This is a myth. Indy had terrific defenses in 05, 07 and I think 08 as well. The defense coming to life in 06 is why they won the Super Bowl. Those defenses were only build to play with leads. Pass rushers with their ears pinned back when teams had to throw every down trying to come back. When the offense struggled, the defense struggled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, JustAnotherFan said: Wait, what? They had one of the worst defenses in the league that year. They came to life in the playoffs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Elky said: They came to life in the playoffs. Playing Trent Green coming off an injury, a 34 year old Steve Mcnair and Rex Grossman is not coming alive. They were not the reason they won the SB. The offense was. The running game, particularity, in the SB. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, JustAnotherFan said: Mike Ditka. Ditka's name will always be associated with the Bears franchise because of the 85 SB win but that SB win was more of a credit to Buddy Ryan's defense. They should have won another SB but it was Ditka's (with the help of McCaskey) hard-headed attitude and failure to adjust his plans in game that kept that from happening. Another name I would throw out there is Marty Shottenheimer(sp). I'd go the opposite way on Marty. He's underrated based on his inability to win in the playoffs, but that man could build a winner anywhere and everywhere (and did). Hell, he even won in Cleveland. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, jrry32 said: I'd go the opposite way on Marty. He's underrated based on his inability to win in the playoffs, but that man could build a winner anywhere and everywhere (and did). Hell, he even won in Cleveland. So much this. Marty was a HOF coach who will likely never get in because he never won the big one. That makes him underrated 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Paul Brown. That hack never even won a Super Bowl! ...but seriously... Pete Carroll is the definition of a good but not special HC. He's had a horseshoe up his butt for his entire Seahawks tenure, with John Schneider putting together an all-world defense in the span of three drafts and finding an elite QB in the 3rd. He choked away one Super Bowl and since then his teams have been falling behind early in playoff games, suggesting a lack of preparation. He's really no better than he was in New England, and yet he still has a win % just below .600 and is considered a top-5 coach in the league by most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 Here’s a controversial one: what about Mike Holmgren? Great QB whisperer, but what about HC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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