resilient part 2 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 As far as Pippen vs Kawhi, I have one question.. though it has 2 parts. Who would have a better or worse career if drafted by another team?? Pippen with his Jordan led Bulls. Kawhi with his Duncan (and Pop's) SA team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Drexler dropping 21 spots while also being ranked behind Carter, McGrady, and Miller - all SG’s he was clearly better than - is probably the biggest travesty to me tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Far too much recency bias on this list. Giannis doesn't have a place in the top 75, let alone top 30, yet. I get that projection is involved but, sheesh. Dame a top 74 player ever? LOL. These lists are always a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootsy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 3:16 AM, RandyMossIsBoss said: 74? Also there was really no point to include ranking movement if the panel of judges was completely different/bigger. What am I supposed to takeaway from seeing these movements? Did Dave Cowen's legacy diminish significantly and/or that 11 new players cracked the top 66 in 4 years? Just silly. Bolded in green= too low (underrated) Bolded in red= too high Bolded are just the rankings that stuck out to me, I don't necessarily agree with every single spot I didn't bold. 74: Artis Gilmore (70, -4) 73: Dikembe Mutombo (73)72: Damian Lillard (Unranked) (nah) 71: Bob Lanier (68, +3)70: Tony Parker (58, -12) (I just don't see top 75 player here. Top 100 maybe?) 69: Bernard King (54, -15) 68: Pete Maravich (71, +3)67: Alex English (62, -5) (should be closer to TMac, VC, Wilkins. All those guys flashy scorers should be in that 50-60 range IMO.) 66: Dave Cowens (55, -11) 65: Pau Gasol (56, -9)64: Earl Monroe (60, -4) (always think he's been overrated for playing in NY. Wouldn't crack my top 74). 63: Alonzo Mourning (65, +2) 62: Dennis Rodman (64, +2) 61: Robert Parish (57, -4) 60: Willis Reed (48, -12) 59: Bob McAdoo (52, -7)58: Manu Ginobili (61, +3) (great teammate, one of the greatest players off the bench, but look around. We are dealing with superstars, elite robins, or specialists who did their thing better than anyone else. Manu is just out of place. Probably cracks top 100, but 58? Come on now.)57: Clyde Drexler (36, -21) (WTF, they had it right the 1st time.) 56: Ray Allen (50, -6) 55: Vince Carter (69, +14) 54: Paul Pierce (45, -9)53: Gary Payton (41, -12) (closer to 40 than 50, had it right the 1st time) 52: Tracy McGrady (63, +11) 51: James Worthy (43, -8) 50: Wes Unseld (53, +3)49: Reggie Miller (51, +2) (maybe the most egregious ranking on this list. I can't see a single player on my window atm (goes up to 63) that I would call Reggie Miller a better player than). . Well you need some new eyes or glasses because I see a lot of players he's better than: Manu, Ray, Parish, Rodman, and Mourning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 2:47 AM, beekay414 said: Far too much recency bias on this list. Giannis doesn't have a place in the top 75, let alone top 30, yet. I get that projection is involved but, sheesh. Dame a top 74 player ever? LOL. These lists are always a joke. I honestly like how they made the list. I already know that Giannis is one of the greatest of all time. I’m not gonna pretend that guys like Steve Nash, Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc. are better just because they played longer. Credit them with greater, more rewarding careers, fine. But Giannis is just a better. In fact, even tho I love VC, I don’t see why him being an OK role player for 8 years somehow vaults him so high on the list. He’s the Julius Peppers of the NBA. Hall of Fame, transcendent athlete who managed to stick around for longer than everyone thought, has great bulk stats...but he could’ve been even better. Were they teammates? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 5:27 PM, resilient part 2 said: As far as Pippen vs Kawhi, I have one question.. though it has 2 parts. Who would have a better or worse career if drafted by another team?? Pippen with his Jordan led Bulls. Kawhi with his Duncan (and Pop's) SA team? They had similar personality coming into the league and both got pretty diva-ish eventually. I think Pippen’s playmaking would fit nicely with the aging of Parker/Ginobili and Pippen’s passing and athleticism was a better fit with the Bulls than Kawhi’s iso ability. Kukoc was pretty handy there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) On 5/17/2020 at 5:12 PM, bootsy said: Well you need some new eyes or glasses because I see a lot of players he's better than: Manu, Ray, Parish, Rodman, and Mourning. Ray Allen is a better version of Reggie Miller. Edited May 20, 2020 by seminoles1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I don’t get the Reggie Miller hate on this board. He’s an advanced stat darling and one of the best shooters the game’s ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootsy Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 7:01 PM, seminoles1 said: Ray Allen is a better version of Reggie Miller. Nope. He just had better teams/teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 4:35 PM, redsoxsuck05 said: I don’t get the Reggie Miller hate on this board. He’s an advanced stat darling and one of the best shooters the game’s ever seen. Saying Ray Allen was better (if that’s what you were referring to) isn’t hate. Ray was the more complete player but you’re not winning anything with either as you’re #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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