Bill Belichick is the GOAT of our generation but who is 2nd best coach of our generation?

[buno67]

Who is the 2nd best HC of our generation? Belichick is hands down #1, but who is #2?

[warrenblue]

Reid

[DoleINGout]

I feel like Harbaugh, Tomlin, Reid, and Peyton have all grown a lot as coaches in the last few seasons. All four have been adapting to the league through changes in their coaching staff and gotten ahead in different innovative ways. All four have won a Super Bowl and I view all four the same basically.

The second best head coach of my generation, (turning 30 end of next March), I'd have to say is between Pete Carroll or Marty Schottenheimer. Both put together consistent winners, but Carroll has more playoff success. I like how Carroll creates a unique culture and gets the best out of players, even ones most fans don't know about. Carroll finds and develops great players who have then moved on and still his teams succeed.

If not for the Bill Parcells and Pete Carroll team building on the Patriots, I wonder how much success Belichick would have found early on. A lot of the great defenders Belichick coached early in his time with the Pats were carryovers from when both Parcells and Carroll were around. Speaking of Parcells, he definitely gets an honorable mention in this topic.

Other good coaches of my generation worth considering: Mike Holmgren, Bruce Arians, Mike Zimmer, Gary Kubiak, Ron Rivera, John Gruden, and John Fox.

I think some notable up-and-comers in the context of this discussion are: Frank Reich, Sean McDermott, Sean McVay, Kyle Shannahan, and Doug Pederson.

[Shady Slim]

i want to say tomlin as a homer but it's got to be reid imo

not only for what he's done with the chiefs but what he's done with the greater game

[Chargers]

Andy Reid. Easily. Not only what he has done with the Chiefs but his ridiculous 4 straight NFC appearances with Eagles in the early 00s. Sean Payton the 3rd best Head Coach.

[BlaqOptic]

1 minute ago, Classic said:

Andy Reid. Easily. Not only what he has done with the Chiefs but his ridiculous 4 straight NFC appearances with Eagles in the early 00s. Sean Payton the 3rd best Head Coach.

You can't boost Reid for the 4 straight NFCCG and ignore the routine collapses in those games, the 08 NFCCG and the post-season with the Chiefs prior to last season.

[Shady Slim]

1 minute ago, BlaqOptic said:

You can't boost Reid for the 4 straight NFCCG and ignore the routine collapses in those games, the 08 NFCCG and the post-season with the Chiefs prior to last season.

tbf imo just making it to four straight NFCCGs and having such brilliant regular season success with KC consistently has to count for something too, and to me it outweights the stuff you describe here

[Soko]

Toss up between Tomlin and Reid IMO.

[minutemancl]

How is Tom Coughlin not even an option? Have we forgotten what he did with the Giants and Jaguars already?

[Apparition]

Toss-up between Payton, Coughlin and Reid. Harbaugh rounds out the top-5. 

Carroll shouldn't even be in consideration.

[buno67]

59 minutes ago, Starless said:

Toss-up between Payton, Coughlin and Reid. Harbaugh rounds out the top-5. 

Carroll shouldn't even be in consideration.

Why can’t Carroll not even be in considerations?

[buno67]

I think it’s Reid. Out of his entire career. He only has 3 seasons with less than 8 wins. Also when he took over for Eagles and Chiefs he turned them around. He turned KC into an immediate playoff team. He took over a struggling Eagles team and had them as a legit playoff team in 2 seasons. Didn’t just ride one QB either. Success with McNabb Vick Smith and now Mahomes

[Soko]

11 minutes ago, buno67 said:

Why can’t Carroll not even be in considerations?

For #2? He’s clearly one of the NFL’s most proven coaches right now, but is there an argument for him over Tolin or Reid? I don’t think so. None of the listed coaches absolutely blow Carroll out of the water, IMO, but he’s the clear bottom of that bunch. Definitely wouldn’t consider him as #2. 

[Apparition]

23 minutes ago, buno67 said:

Why can’t Carroll not even be in considerations?

Because he's truly nothing special as a coach. He can motivate players well but he's not a great strategist or tactician. 

[onejayhawk]

Reid is obvious. Payton is probably next. 

The interesting question is, who is the most influential BB or Reid?

J