JaguarCrazy2832 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 If all players were currently FAs and you started from scratch with todays projected cap(roughly 200M) who would be worth a contract of 4 years, 160M(130M guaranteed) assuming guarantees are: Year 1 & 2: Fully guaranteed Year 3: 30M Year 4: 20M With the cap increasing year over year it helps but 40M a year is still a huge chunk of money for 1 player(presumably a QB) Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 If there was true open bidding, probably more than 16 quarterbacks would and should get that. That's only 20% of the cap now and the difference improved QB play makes is far more useful than anything else you can do with that money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopDogg Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Mahomes is the easy answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Stallyns Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Value is based on what someone is willing pay you. A lot of teams base contract offers on similar contracts have been used in the past. Sometimes teams have signed players to contracts that don’t fit the normal structure and are considered outliers. Players/agents try to push those deals while most teams will ignore them. I wouldn’t be surprised to see teams get extensions done on players like Prescott and Watson, before Mahomes and Jackson get theirs done, to beat the explosion that is bound to happen. Especially since the Texans and Cowboys already have a few large contract obligations. We can look at how the DL market slowed down. At one point in time DEs and DTs were starting to get $16M/yr while QBs were at $22-25M. Now 8 QBs are over $30/APY and the highest paid DL are just over $20 M/APY (K. Mack, A. Donald, D. Lawrence, F. Clark and D. Buckner). J. Jones and A. Cooper are the only WRs over $20 M/APY and Tunsil is the only OT over $20M/APY. (Cowboys: Lawrence and Cooper and Texans: Tunsil) I think Mahomes and Jackson will get $40M whether they deserve it or not is certainly up for debate. In a free for all type situation I could see maybe 5 QBs get that type of money (don’t ask me to name them because situational fit is important when determining that) I doubt any other positions get close to that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KManX89 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 If Dak seriously thinks he's worth Mahomes money, then he doesn't deserve to contend for a ring (and $40mil per will seriously cripple the talent pool on both sides of the ball). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw4bucs Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 mahomes..... Thats it, Maybe Lamar if he continues the form he was in last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Jamal Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 As expected, a lot of people out here trying to win the "most cap space" championship. Give me a good or at least serviceable QB and I'm good with avoiding high paid veteran players elsewhere and having ONLY having 80% of the cap left to work with. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Mahomes and MAYBE Deshaun Watson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) NFL should just adopt a Max Contract for QBs and once they hit that Max Contract, that's it The QBs have significant earning power outside of the salary cap, more than any other player/position- so its not like they'd be an aggrieved party here. Agree on some percentage of the cap = max compensation. It takes the competitive nature out of these contract negotiations: "I'm better than that guy ! " It also helps other teams: When one dumb team re-sets the QB market, the other teams all have to play along and be compared to that deal With a Max Contract, that issue goes away A Max Contract helps the team build around that QB, while allowing the QB and the agent to puff out their chest and say they got Max. It could potentially eliminate hold outs and it would allow teams to use the tags on non-QB players Edited May 26, 2020 by Shanedorf 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacemanSpiff Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 No one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Only Mahomes because he's young and has already won a Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SnoopDogg said: Mahomes is the easy answer Yea but is he the only answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Seeing as though this is a four year deal: I think it will be valuable to have QBs that will still likely be either in their primes or still heavily thriving over that span of time so I would say QBs worth the IDEA of $40m: Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, and Kyler Murray as tier one options. Tier Two options would include guys who I’d feel a little more nervous about spending such cash on for one reason or another, but in a competitive league it would be better to “fail” at over paying than settling for a far more average talent at the position: Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, Matthew Stafford, Jimmy G, Kirk Cousins, Drew Lock, Baker Mayfield, and Sam Darnold. After that I think it’s reasonable that most of the QBs will each either age out or I don’t have nearly as good a feel about the QB. It may be shocking that I have Lock, Darnold, and Baker on here but I think their potential are all high enough that they could increase their value... and I’d rather take one of those guys rather than settle for less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plat2 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Mahomes....thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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