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Colin Kaepernick on the Patriots: Is he a better option than Jarrett Stidham?


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1 minute ago, MikeT14 said:

He's probably better than a lot of the backups in the NFL, but I don't know about starting. Like many have said, he hasn't played in awhile. 

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       69 58 28-30-0 1011 1692 59.8 12271 72 4.3 30 1.8 574 80 7.3 7.3 12.1 177.8 88.9   171 1060 6.02 6.07 9.2 7 7 49
2011 24 SFO QB 7 3 0   3 5 60.0 35 0 0.0 0 0.0 2 19 7.0 7.0 11.7 11.7 81.2 74.4 0 0 7.00 7.00 0.0     0
2012 25 SFO QB/qb 7 13 7 5-2-0 136 218 62.4 1814 10 4.6 3 1.4 86 57 8.3 8.6 13.3 139.5 98.3 71.8 16 112 7.27 7.55 6.8 1 1 9
2013 26 SFO QB 7 16 16 12-4-0 243 416 58.4 3197 21 5.0 8 1.9 148 64 7.7 7.8 13.2 199.8 91.6 65.7 39 231 6.52 6.65 8.6 2 3 15
2014 27 SFO QB 7 16 16 8-8-0 289 478 60.5 3369 19 4.0 10 2.1 164 80 7.0 6.9 11.7 210.6 86.4 60.9 52 344 5.71 5.58 9.8 3 2 12
2015 28 SFO QB 7 9 8 2-6-0 144 244 59.0 1615 6 2.5 5 2.0 73 76 6.6 6.2 11.2 179.4 78.5 43.4 28 166 5.33 4.94 10.3     4
2016 29 SFO QB 7 12 11 1-10-0 196 331 59.2 2241 16 4.8 4 1.2 101 65 6.8 7.2 11.4 186.8 90.7 49.5 36 207 5.54 5.92 9.8 1 1 9

Backups have more responsibility than just being available if the starter goes down.  Guys that make a career out of being a backup QB have to be good in the film room.  They basically have to be another coach. 

Much to the chagrin of some Giants fans, we've kept Alex Tanney around for that reason, even though he's not a good QB.

What I'm getting at is, maybe Kaepernick doesn't fit that role. 

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10 minutes ago, Gmen said:

Backups have more responsibility than just being available if the starter goes down.  Guys that make a career out of being a backup QB have to be good in the film room.  They basically have to be another coach. 

Much to the chagrin of some Giants fans, we've kept Alex Tanney around for that reason, even though he's not a good QB.

What I'm getting at is, maybe Kaepernick doesn't fit that role. 

You're right. He might not. But a lot of teams carry 3 QBs too. Whether that's a development guy or not, who's to say. There's def not 32 options for Kap available based on scenarios, but I would think there would be AT LEAST half a dozen.

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4 hours ago, Gmen said:

Backups have more responsibility than just being available if the starter goes down.  Guys that make a career out of being a backup QB have to be good in the film room.  They basically have to be another coach. 

Much to the chagrin of some Giants fans, we've kept Alex Tanney around for that reason, even though he's not a good QB.

What I'm getting at is, maybe Kaepernick doesn't fit that role. 

This is horse manure. There are plenty of guys who have stuck around as back ups despite not being good in the film room. Vick has publicly admitted several times throughout his career that he never took film study seriously. He still was able to stick around for several seasons as a back up. He was the backup in Philly, NY, and Pittsburgh.

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Easy pass. I’d rather ride (or die) with Stidham. Plus, with Kaep’s contract demands, I doubt NE could even afford him, unless he prioritized playing over the money. 

If the team were looking to bring in a new QB that they hypothetically can’t afford, I’d rather have Cam than Kaep. Higher probability of success, more recent sightings to go off of, less of a media circus. 

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what's important to note about most people, me included, who are on team "colin kaepernick should be in the nfl rn", is that the argument isn't kaep would come on to a team and instantly make them a world beating contender with mvp level play from the shotgun, rather, out of the (minimum) 64 quarterbacks who have a job he's unequivocally better than at least 40 odd of them and could help a team to win games, and even put a defensive team with a ****ty signalcaller (such as the bears 2018) up over the top maybe

i used to be firmly on the side of "he is a good enough player to start in the nfl but i'd understand why teams would be hesitant to sign him given they'd have to completely revamp their offensive system", and then i saw what john harbaugh did with the ravens. and if you say not every coach is john harbaugh, true, then look at what o'brien did with the texans for deshaun watson. it is very possible to adapt your system to a player whose skillset isn't set as a pocket passer.

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9 hours ago, Gmen said:

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I don't know if you subscribe to EPA and CPOE analytics, but his career clearly went in the wrong direction.

I don't even need analytics to tell me how awful he was as a passer(QB).

Now, he could have MAYBE become a Taysom Hill type in the right system (which is limited) but other than that he was a flash in the pan and Gm's/coaches realized it. Plain and simple. 

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4 hours ago, 49erurtaza said:

The same question can also be said for Cam 

Cam is a free agent with an injury history as long as my long arm during a pandemic that has restricted teams from being able to properly evaluate him. Not even close to the same thing.

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1 hour ago, Shady Slim said:

what's important to note about most people, me included, who are on team "colin kaepernick should be in the nfl rn", is that the argument isn't kaep would come on to a team and instantly make them a world beating contender with mvp level play from the shotgun, rather, out of the (minimum) 64 quarterbacks who have a job he's unequivocally better than at least 40 odd of them and could help a team to win games, and even put a defensive team with a ****ty signalcaller (such as the bears 2018) up over the top maybe

i used to be firmly on the side of "he is a good enough player to start in the nfl but i'd understand why teams would be hesitant to sign him given they'd have to completely revamp their offensive system", and then i saw what john harbaugh did with the ravens. and if you say not every coach is john harbaugh, true, then look at what o'brien did with the texans for deshaun watson. it is very possible to adapt your system to a player whose skillset isn't set as a pocket passer.

Even regardless of that, not every back up in the NFL even has a similar playstyle as the QB starting. Ryan Fitzpatrick has been a journeyman back-up his entire career and he is a throwback gunslinger QB. How many QBs has he been behind that play similar to him? I would say the vast majority don't. Yet despite his inefficiency and constantly having terrible games he'll probably stay in the NFL until he's 40.

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10 hours ago, Gmen said:

Backups have more responsibility than just being available if the starter goes down.  Guys that make a career out of being a backup QB have to be good in the film room.  They basically have to be another coach. 

Much to the chagrin of some Giants fans, we've kept Alex Tanney around for that reason, even though he's not a good QB.

What I'm getting at is, maybe Kaepernick doesn't fit that role. 

How would you know if Kaepernick is good in the film room?

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1 hour ago, KingOfTheDot said:

Kaepernick backing up Lamar Jackson is the best fit but they have RG3.

I like him in Arizona, Houston, Buffalo, Seattle, Pittsburgh or Kansas City

Especially with Greg Roman there who was the coach that he played his best football for.

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