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Matts4313 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Its been a while since statistics courses, but its odd to me that the entire bell curve is just 1 win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Did Fitzpatrick break the scale or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, HTTRDynasty said: Did Fitzpatrick break the scale or something? dunno why they didnt include him. Sucks Dak is also missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Didn’t know where to post this, so here is gonna have to do. Good video, aligns with what I’ve thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 10:04 AM, Matts4313 said: Its been a while since statistics courses, but its odd to me that the entire bell curve is just 1 win. my immediate thoughts as well I guess that's just a mark of parity -- or a bias in betting lines that tends to shade win projections closer to .500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: Didn’t know where to post this, so here is gonna have to do. Good video, aligns with what I’ve thought. maybe unpopular opinion, but I generally disagree with this video. Videos main arguments being "Browns weren't trying to use Odell in the way the media is expecting them to" and "teams get better throughout the year, so it was normal for Baker to improve, even after Odell went down" I'll fully agree on point #1 -- but that actually supports the argument that you should move on from him. You're paying him large sums of money for a role that is worth much smaller sums of money. Move him for other more usable assets if he doesn't really fit in your offense in a way that utilizes his skill set And the second point is garbage.. ALL teams should have that year long continuity benefit. So should the defenses that Baker is playing. I'm not buying the narrative that Odell is suddenly a bad WR.. but I AM buying the narrative that there is either a chemistry issue between Baker/Odell, or that the scheme doesn't get the most out of Odell's talents. Either way, you're doing no favors to the team to have him there eating up cap and being a media focal point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tk3 said: maybe unpopular opinion, but I generally disagree with this video. Videos main arguments being "Browns weren't trying to use Odell in the way the media is expecting them to" and "teams get better throughout the year, so it was normal for Baker to improve, even after Odell went down" I'll fully agree on point #1 -- but that actually supports the argument that you should move on from him. You're paying him large sums of money for a role that is worth much smaller sums of money. Move him for other more usable assets if he doesn't really fit in your offense in a way that utilizes his skill set And the second point is garbage.. ALL teams should have that year long continuity benefit. So should the defenses that Baker is playing. I'm not buying the narrative that Odell is suddenly a bad WR.. but I AM buying the narrative that there is either a chemistry issue between Baker/Odell, or that the scheme doesn't get the most out of Odell's talents. Either way, you're doing no favors to the team to have him there eating up cap and being a media focal point Well for a WR and a QB it’s doubly important to have continuity and chemistry. Not to mention this is was a brand new offense. The video points out that the chemistry was an issue but that’s not to say they can’t form good chemistry. They’re inability so far to do so is largely circumstantial. Also the video doesn’t highlight that Odell’s talents are being utilised, if anything it’s saying even within the role he has in the offense he’s not getting the targets that he should because Baker was tentative. A lot of yards were left on the field as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: Well for a WR and a QB it’s doubly important to have continuity and chemistry. Not to mention this is was a brand new offense. The video points out that the chemistry was an issue but that’s not to say they can’t form good chemistry. They’re inability so far to do so is largely circumstantial. Also the video doesn’t highlight that Odell’s talents are being utilised, if anything it’s saying even within the role he has in the offense he’s not getting the targets that he should because Baker was tentative. A lot of yards were left on the field as a result. I agree with everything you've said But I also think every word you've said supports the argument that its just not a good pairing... I don't really understand the counter argument to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tk3 said: I agree with everything you've said But I also think every word you've said supports the argument that its just not a good pairing... I don't really understand the counter argument to it That could be a possibility but that ain’t on Odell, that’s on Baker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Tk3 said: On 8/2/2021 at 10:04 AM, Matts4313 said: Its been a while since statistics courses, but its odd to me that the entire bell curve is just 1 win. my immediate thoughts as well I guess that's just a mark of parity -- or a bias in betting lines that tends to shade win projections closer to .500 It's also because that is average. 1 win average difference accounts for 17 win difference overall in the schedule. And if you think about record 17 wins is actually a 34 game swing in that if you go .500 and change 17 losses to wins you'd be 34 games over .500. Which would be around a 6% difference in win% of opponents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew39k Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 58 minutes ago, SBLIII said: It's the reason you are better off refreshing at the position every 5 or so. If you have a stud, maybe you look to extend him early so you can keep him for a 6th year, but I'm year 5 you should have his replacement on the roster and ready to roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, SBLIII said: Charles was such a beast, best RB in Chiefs history, and theres been some good ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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