KhanYouDigIt Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: @AFlaccoSeagulls remember that thread a few years back where the jags fans were arguing Lambo>Tucker? haha At the time, how was that not a debate? He had a 3 year (2017-2019) stretch where he went 71-75 on FG’s (94.6%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: At the time, how was that not a debate? He had a 3 year (2017-2019) stretch where he went 71-75 on FG’s (94.6%) Because - at the time - the quintessential argument from the Tucker crowd was "kicking is all about consistency year after year...lets see where Lambo is in five years' time". Welp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Ray Reed said: Because - at the time - the quintessential argument from the Tucker crowd was "kicking is all about consistency year after year...lets see where Lambo is in five years' time". Welp. Nobody said let’s see where Lambo is in five years time. Stop lyin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, KhanYouDigIt said: Nobody said let’s see where Lambo is in five years time. Stop lyin. Uh, yeah, we did lol, that was the entire argument from the Tucker crowd. Jags fans were arguing that Lambo was better because he had a better year that particular year (whenever the thread was), and Ravens fans were saying ok, but do it for 7-8 years consistently like Tucker and then we'll talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Ray Reed said: @AFlaccoSeagulls remember that thread a few years back where the jags fans were arguing Lambo>Tucker? haha I'm still upset about how much time I wasted arguing that Tucker was better than Lambo. But hey, Lambo will always have those 2-3 years just like every other NFL kicker that people try to think is better than the GOAT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChazStandard Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: Except "points given up by the defense" is not necessarily just a defensive stat, it's about complimentary football. In those 4 games in 2001, Peyton threw 9 interceptions and fumbled 3 times. In total the offense lost 14 turnovers, 2 of which were returned for scores. The GB streak is bit more unlucky, but still 6 turnovers in 4 games (+13 sacks). Even in Brady's streak the Pats turned the ball over 4 times in two games to give up that many points. In this 6 game streak Mahomes has thrown 8 INTs fumbled three times and been sacked 9 times, other players have fumbled 6 and they turned the ball over on downs 3 times. Several of those turnovers were returned for scores. Then there's the game management. For example, the only reason the Chiefs 28 points streak is active is that, against the Eagles, with 2.30 to go and the game pretty much over, the Chiefs threw a 44 yard bomb instead of just running the clock out. That put a tired Chiefs defense out on the field to give up a meaningless touchdown, but they should never have been in the position to give up those points. Obviously the Chiefs D is playing badly, but the O has made costly mistakes to put them in bad positions too. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 7 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: Nice stat but context is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 hours ago, SBLIII said: Nice stat but context is needed. Here is some context. Mahomes has 7 turnovers during his current 4-game streak Manning had 12 turnovers as mentioned above. Brady has 1 in his last 4 We should all feel pity for Mahomes because that's what he needs? His team only got to 3 straight AFCCGs. Suck Less. This is the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 In the last 5 years Brady is 8-2 in the playoffs when his team gives up 20+ Brees was 1-4 Mahomes is 4-2 Peyton Manning was 0-3 in Denver and 3-11 for his career. Peyton "The Anchor" Manning had 3 TDs and 7 picks in his Indy SB run. (5 passing TDs and 11 turnovers on both runs) I'm going to go out on a limb and say his D carried him to his only 2 Super Bowls. Every lame shot at Brady that includes the word Manning is actually a compliment by a fool who has not done his research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) SB History where the losing team scored 28+ Phi 41-33 NE NE 34-28 Atl Bal 34-31 SF NE 32-29 Car Pit 35-31 Dal Notice a pattern here? Edited October 15, 2021 by SkippyX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I get the desire to jump to defend Brady, but the Chiefs defense is bad because of Mahomes is not really the argument to do it with. Turnovers or not, KC leads the league in plays per drive and time of possession per drive, the Chiefs defense has faced the fewest opposing possessions of any defense in football, and we're slightly above average in terms of average opposing starting field position. The D is not allowing points because the offense is turning it over, the D is allowing points because it sucks regardless of how the other team got the ball. Teams average 45.2 yards per drive against us, 5 games in. If that were an offense, it would be ranked second in football to ours. The overall point of the tweet is perfectly valid, in that few elite QBs have had to deal with a defense as bad as this current one has been for KC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 8:42 AM, MWil23 said: It shows just how egregious those 4th down calls/Browns defense were this past Sunday. They dominated the entire game and lost, and that's frustrating. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Both South Divisions contain one team that is not culturally Southern. The AFC has Indianapolis, which is also not geographically Southern, but rather, Midwestern. The NFC has Tampa Bay, which while it is the NFC's southernmost team, they are located in the part of Florida whose character has been changed by the arrival of migrants from the North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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