Notable Stats

[Bearerofnews]

Anyone know what site still has splits for distance ball travels? ESPN used to have splits that showed data for passes thrown behind los, 1 > 10 yds, 11 > 20 yds, etc. But they don't anymore, either does NFL.com or football reference. 

[Shanedorf]

These are better than nothing, last one has a sort for 20+ yard passes

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/gross-yards-per-passing-attempt

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/net-yards-per-passing-play

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/yards-per-completion

https://www.footballdb.com/statistics/nfl/player-splits/passing/as-starter/2020?sort=pass20

 

[iknowcool]

Is there any way a ticked off Bucs team with the GOAT QB punts more than twice against our defense?

[RaidersAreOne]

Pff so meh but it's true that Ferrell has consistently been improved since his first game. He'll never have a flashy sack total and Josh Allen still should have been the pick at 4, but Cle isn't a bad player by any means and I look forward to seeing him progress further. 

[Shanedorf]

18 hours ago, Forge said:

Its very clear that there isn't the same faith in his arm that there used to be, and there is typically a reason for that. His arm isn't the same.
Doesn't mean he's bad. 

Drew trained hard in the offseason to strengthen his legs and boost his arms.
He understands and accepts the reality and is doing everything he can to overcome it

from The Athletic:

"Brees has only thrown eight passes between 21 and 40 yards this year"

[Forge]

4 hours ago, Bearerofnews said:

Anyone know what site still has splits for distance ball travels? ESPN used to have splits that showed data for passes thrown behind los, 1 > 10 yds, 11 > 20 yds, etc. But they don't anymore, either does NFL.com or football reference. 

Football reference doesn't do the splits any more, but they do track averages for how far the ball travels in the air, including on a game by game basis. So you can't see how many throws someone made over 20 yards in a game, but you can get the averages. 

That being said, you can also check out the deep ball project for FO. It doesn't have full splits, but documents 21-30 yards by QB and 31+ yards per QB, but doesn't break down anything less than 20 yards. 

[Jlowe22]

21 hours ago, Forge said:

I don't quite understand the offense that people are taking to saying that Brees' arm is shot. Doesn't mean he's a bad QB (hell, honestly you may want to give him more credit for succeeding with that limitation). You can still win like that. The two guys who are dead last in the league in average depth of target the last two years are 30-11 combined (Jimmy G and Drew Brees). Brees has been dead last in depth of target the last two years, and over the last three, his average target distance has drastically decreased (over 7 yards per attempt in 2018, only 5.5 this year, which is nearly a full yard shorter than Jimmy at the second lowest). He's still one of the most obscenely accurate quarterbacks in the league. Its very clear that there isn't the same faith in his arm that there used to be, and there is typically a reason for that. His arm isn't the same. Doesn't mean he's bad. 

I do worry about the viability of the Saints as the season wears on because I Think it's a lot harder to navigate an offense with 12-15 play drives every time successfully when refs swallow the whistle and the weather gets a little worse, but he'll have his chance to prove me wrong again this year. 

His arm is definitely weaker now than it was in his prime, no question.  But it's been roughly the same for the past little while.  He started adapting and playing differently at QB towards the end of 2016 because of it.  He also started taking more veteran days off around the same time.

This isn't a secret, or shouldn't have been, we've been discussing it forever.  Everyone and their mother knows Brees has lost some arm strength.  People acted like this was some brand new thing early this year, and it wasn't.  The problem earlier in the year, was the fact that he was uncharacteristically inaccurate.  That was worrying for a few games, but it's gotten better.  Arm strength is the same, accuracy got back to normal 3 or 4 weeks in.

Whether or not Saints can sustain that offense, well I mean, I guess anyone who thinks they can't won't change their mind unless Saints win a superbowl. That almost certainly won't happen regardless, so to each his own I suppose.  I personally think it's possible, but not with a defense ranked in 20s in points against.  They won't win 3-4 shootouts consecutively against PAckers, Seahawks, Buc, Chiefs and the like.

[N4L]

On 11/1/2020 at 9:00 PM, Bearerofnews said:

I feel like Chargers need a public sacrifice to appease the football gods

 

isnt that what Tyrod Taylor was supposed to be?

[ET80]

22 hours ago, Forge said:

Matt Schaub has a streak of 4 straight games with a pick six in 2013, and a streak of three straight games with a pick 6 in 2015 lol. He once ran up a streak where he had 6 pick sixes in 9 games and 4 touchdown passes lol

It was this streak that led to Bill O'Brien. It was a dark, desolate time.

[Bearerofnews]

I need the boys... i tried finding who #1 was for both categories Herbert is 2nd in using stathead but maybe im doing it wrong. Any idea who #1 is?

 

 

[Jakuvious]

1 hour ago, Bearerofnews said:

I need the boys... i tried finding who #1 was for both categories Herbert is 2nd in using stathead but maybe im doing it wrong. Any idea who #1 is?

 

 

Depending on how literally they're taking the word start, possibly Watson for TDs?

[N4L]

On 11/2/2020 at 6:54 PM, wackywabbit said:

Yea, it's a week old. The Steelers game will plummet that graphic comparison. And Lamar visibly isn't as sharp as he was last year.

Big picture there's nothing to panic about with Lamar or the offense. I don't care what the stats say, he's doing his job more often than not, especially early in games when the games were competitive. This year the only thing that matters is how they look week 18.

The offense has not looked good. Lamar has been inaccurate and slow to read defenses. 

You can downplay it all you want, but everything that everyone was saying about him after his rookie year (the offense will get figured out, he's not accurate enough) is becoming increasingly accurate 

That's not to say the book is closed on him, it's not and no where near being at that point, but the only reason no one is panicking is because the Ravens defense is very good. If it wasnt as good as it is, then y'all would have some serious problems 

Greg Roman has had troubles scheming up a passing game since 2011/2012

[Bearerofnews]

1 hour ago, Jakuvious said:

Depending on how literally they're taking the word start, possibly Watson for TDs?

Nah i thought so to. But Watson only started 6 games as a rookie, right?

[Bearerofnews]

1 hour ago, Jakuvious said:

Depending on how literally they're taking the word start, possibly Watson for TDs?

Actually ya might be right about Watson for tds. This isnt limited to rookies. Just first 7 starts.

 

					Passing
Rk	Player	From	To	Lg	Tm	G	W	L	T	W-L%	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Sk	Yds	Y/A	AY/A
1	Kurt Warner*	1999	1999	NFL	RAM	7	6	1	0	.857	147	208	70.67	1859	21	3	125.9	15	103	8.94	10.31
2	Deshaun Watson	2017	2018	NFL	HTX	7	3	4	0	.429	131	215	60.93	1773	19	8	101.2	18	113	8.25	8.34
3	Patrick Mahomes	2017	2018	NFL	KAN	7	6	1	0	.857	157	247	63.56	2149	18	5	107.2	8	41	8.70	9.25
4	Justin Herbert	2020	2020	NFL	SDG	7	1	6	0	.143	181	269	67.29	2146	17	5	104.7	14	82	7.98	8.41
5	Mark Rypien	1988	1989	NFL	WAS	7	3	4	0	.429	111	189	58.73	1682	16	9	96.5	13	98	8.90	8.45
6	Marc Bulger	2002	2002	NFL	RAM	7	6	1	0	.857	138	214	64.49	1826	14	6	101.5	12	102	8.53	8.58
7	Daunte Culpepper	2000	2000	NFL	MIN	7	7	0	0	1.000	119	191	62.30	1671	14	7	99.6	19	83	8.75	8.57
8	Derek Anderson	2006	2007	NFL	CLE	7	2	5	0	.286	124	227	54.63	1689	13	14	72.0	11	111	7.44	5.81
9	Shaun Hill	2007	2008	NFL	SFO	7	5	2	0	.714	129	207	62.32	1499	13	5	95.1	15	100	7.24	7.41
10	Dan Marino*	1983	1983	NFL	MIA	7	5	2	0	.714	115	202	56.93	1558	13	4	94.9	8	71	7.71	8.11
11	Marcus Mariota	2015	2015	NFL	OTI	7	2	5	0	.286	147	224	65.63	1795	13	6	98.3	20	136	8.01	7.97
12	Baker Mayfield	2018	2018	NFL	CLE	7	2	5	0	.286	159	262	60.69	1783	13	7	86.4	21	146	6.81	6.60
13	Tyler Thigpen	2008	2008	NFL	KAN	6	0	6	0	.000	116	207	56.04	1313	12	6	82.5	15	86	6.34	6.20
14	Kyle Allen	2018	2019	NFL	CAR	7	6	1	0	.857	132	218	60.55	1519	11	4	90.7	20	165	6.97	7.15
15	Tom Brady	2001	2001	NFL	NWE	7	5	2	0	.714	135	211	63.98	1380	11	5	90.2	20	115	6.54	6.52
16	Aaron Brooks	2000	2001	NFL	NOR	7	4	3	0	.571	145	255	56.86	1827	11	6	83.9	18	120	7.16	6.97
17	Jay Cutler	2006	2007	NFL	DEN	7	4	3	0	.571	127	209	60.77	1574	11	8	85.7	16	99	7.53	6.8

Edited November 11, 2020 by Bearerofnews

[Hunter2_1]

Arians needs to delegate vs New Orleans from now on....

 

Brady was pressured on 19 of his 41 dropbacks

In two games this season, the Saints pressured Brady 32 times in total — that makes up 37% of his total pressures after nine weeks. Overall, his 5.5 yards per attempt and 57.9% completion rate in this game are the lowest marks of his season so far.

For the Saints defense, David Onyemata showed up with seven total pressures and put four hits on Brady. Trey Hendrickson joined in with two sacks and five total pressures. Only two pressures came from linebackers and safeties as the Saints defensive line dominated proceedings.