BayRaider Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 9:11 PM, upriser7 said: Packers - 2007,2014,2016,2019,2020. Vikings - 1998,2000,2009,2017. The 2016/2019 Packers were good teams, but far from great. 2014 was a pretty good team, but nothing to write home about. 2000 Vikings were a good team, but also nothing to write home about. The other five teams on that list were dominant: 2007 Packers, 2020 Packers, 1998 Vikings, 2009 Vikings, 2017 Vikings. That 2017 Viking team with any competent QB probably wins the Super Bowl. Yes I know Keenum had a decent year, but he was just an extension of Pat Shurmur, and a very limited QB. Elite Teams: 1) 1998 Vikings 2) 2009 Vikings 3) 2020 Packers 4) 2007 Packers 5) 2017 Vikings Good Teams: 6) 2014 Packers 7) 2000 Vikings 8 ) 2019 Packers 9) 2016 Packers Edited January 31, 2021 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 12 hours ago, BayRaider said: The 2016/2019 Packers were good teams, but far from great. 2014 was a pretty good team, but nothing to write home about. 2000 Vikings were a good team, but also nothing to write home about. The other five teams on that list were dominant: 2007 Packers, 2020 Packers, 1998 Vikings, 2009 Vikings, 2017 Vikings. That 2017 Viking team with any competent QB probably wins the Super Bowl. Yes I know Keenum had a decent year, but he was just an extension of Pat Shurmur, and a very limited QB. Elite Teams: 1) 1998 Vikings 2) 2009 Vikings 3) 2020 Packers 4) 2007 Packers 5) 2017 Vikings Good Teams: 6) 2014 Packers 7) 2000 Vikings 8 ) 2019 Packers 9) 2016 Packers The 2014 Packers should definitely be in the top category. Basically on par with Seattle and a muffed onside kick away from the SB. Best offense in football. The 2000 Vikings are the worst team on the list. Far cry from the ‘98 version. +26 point differential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 so the Rams will go 7 yrs without a 1st. That has to be a NFL record. I wonder who has the 2nd longest streak without a 1st in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, August4th said: so the Rams will go 7 yrs without a 1st. That has to be a NFL record. I wonder who has the 2nd longest streak without a 1st in the NFL. they are going to implement the NBA rule here soon lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 15 hours ago, El Ramster said: [PFF] Highest-graded seasons by a defender since 2006: 1. Aaron Donald 2018 - 94.8 2. Aaron Donald 2017 - 94.4 3. Aaron Donald 2020 - 94.2 4. Aaron Donald 2019 - 93.6 Very impressive, but Donald aside - 09 Revis, 12/14/15 Watt, 09 Woodson, 19 Gilmore, 08 Reed, 10 Troy...none of these seasons were a 94+???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: 16 hours ago, El Ramster said: [PFF] Highest-graded seasons by a defender since 2006: 1. Aaron Donald 2018 - 94.8 2. Aaron Donald 2017 - 94.4 3. Aaron Donald 2020 - 94.2 4. Aaron Donald 2019 - 93.6 Very impressive, but Donald aside - 09 Revis, 12/14/15 Watt, 09 Woodson, 19 Gilmore, 08 Reed, 10 Troy...none of these seasons were a 94+???? Remember when PFF did this with some Eagles OL player? Defaulted to him as the #1 player in the NFL (or maybe just OL?) every year for like 5 years in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Remember when PFF did this with some Eagles OL player? Defaulted to him as the #1 player in the NFL (or maybe just OL?) every year for like 5 years in a row. Evan Mathis... Difference is, don’t really have an issue with Donald’s seasons being ranked so high. Just seems weird that some of the greatest seasons we’ve ever seen at certain positions (especially in the modern era) can’t even get Donald’s worst seasons since entering his prime, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Yin-Yang said: Evan Mathis... Difference is, don’t really have an issue with Donald’s seasons being ranked so high. Just seems weird that some of the greatest seasons we’ve ever seen at certain positions (especially in the modern era) can’t even get Donald’s worst seasons since entering his prime, lol. The GOAT big dawg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, El Ramster said: The GOAT big dawg. You can think that but there’s really no argument for Donald’s 17 or 19 seasons being better than 12, 14, or 15 Watt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 ^^^ Dont know where else to put this ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I’ve been watching since 91, he’s as good a rookie tackle as I’ve seen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 9 hours ago, WideRight said: The 2014 Packers should definitely be in the top category. Basically on par with Seattle and a muffed onside kick away from the SB. Best offense in football. The 2000 Vikings are the worst team on the list. Far cry from the ‘98 version. +26 point differential. I think its time to revisit the value of point differential. Without SoS it has very little context. That Packers team outscored the 5-11 Bears by 52 points. Were they great or did the Bears just stink? They beat the 10-6 Eagles by 33 but it was the 4-4 Butt-fumbler Eagles, not the 6-2 Foles Eagles. They lost to the Seahawks by 20 in week 1. They lost to the Saints by 19 in week 8 They were -2 against the Lions in a split. They barely won their home playoff game vs Dallas with the Dez catch/no catch play Yes, Rodgers would have had a chance to win late. And yes, I lean No Catch but it was very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: I think its time to revisit the value of point differential. Without SoS it has very little context. That Packers team outscored the 5-11 Bears by 52 points. Were they great or did the Bears just stink? They beat the 10-6 Eagles by 33 but it was the 4-4 Butt-fumbler Eagles, not the 6-2 Foles Eagles. They lost to the Seahawks by 20 in week 1. They lost to the Saints by 19 in week 8 They were -2 against the Lions in a split. They barely won their home playoff game vs Dallas with the Dez catch/no catch play Yes, Rodgers would have had a chance to win late. And yes, I lean No Catch but it was very close. My point was that if we are breaking those 9 teams down into just two categories, the ‘14 squad belongs in the upper half. They were certainly better than say the ‘17 Vikings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTrav Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 @SkippyX In your bag of QB tricks, do you happen to have Brady's stats for record when trailing by more than 1 point in the 4th quarter to a team with a winning record? Today I've seen Aaron Rodgers'. 0-42! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, BigTrav said: @SkippyX In your bag of QB tricks, do you happen to have Brady's stats for record when trailing by more than 1 point in the 4th quarter to a team with a winning record? Today I've seen Aaron Rodgers'. 0-42! Under game situation, towards the bottom, it has some split information. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00/splits/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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