MWil23 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: cap space champs! no need to get a functional FS or LB Cap space champs almost the last 15 years running! Look at that list. It’s clearly working for a good portion of those teams 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: cap space champs! no need to get a functional FS or LB Every time you mention cap space without mentioning things like active salary and roll over, you look like a scrub midget. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Every time you mention cap space without mentioning things like active salary and roll over, you look like a scrub midget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, MWil23 said: In 2021 the Browns are 15th in salary cap....and thats without paying Chubb/Ward yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Every time you mention cap space without mentioning things like active salary and roll over, you look like a scrub midget. Yeah, we're in the top half of the league in salary cap spending this year. Our space is all rollover which goes away if you don't roll it over (use it). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Every time you mention cap space without mentioning things like active salary and roll over, you look like a scrub midget. I didn’t say we had to spend all 30M right now. But 10M to fill some needs when we’re finally a playoff contender would still leave us with 20 in carry over. Scrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I didn’t say we had to spend all 30M right now. But 10M to fill some needs when we’re finally a playoff contender would still leave us with 20 in carry over. Scrub. True, but Im still confused at somes love for mid round draft picks and unwilling to part with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 14 hours ago, bruceb said: This will be key. Bitonio is fading. What? This is the first semblance of bitonio criticism I’ve seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I didn’t say we had to spend all 30M right now. But 10M to fill some needs when we’re finally a playoff contender would still leave us with 20 in carry over. Scrub. On who? Who are these 10 million dollar gems that push us over the top? You suggested Watt who’s cost is double that and he’s on the decline. We’re not ready to go all in yet imo, not with the excessive holes on this defense. They’re not a player or two away. As I said though, I do hope they’re buyers and can improve, but I don’t think they need to be splash moves. As far as why we’re not spending a bunch of money, I’m guessing it has to do with the potential cap number in ‘21 being such an uncertainty with some reports of A potential huge reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: What? This is the first semblance of bitonio criticism I’ve seen. Consider the source... ...is a statement I just wrote to the typical source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: On who? Who are these 10 million dollar gems that push us over the top? You suggested Watt who’s cost is double that and he’s on the decline. We’re not ready to go all in yet imo, not with the excessive holes on this defense. They’re not a player or two away. As I said though, I do hope they’re buyers and can improve, but I don’t think they need to be splash moves. As far as why we’re not spending a bunch of money, I’m guessing it has to do with the potential cap number in ‘21 being such an uncertainty with some reports of A potential huge reduction. Thats why im trying to grab some younger players whose time just might have ran out on their current team or are in line for a payday. Avery Williamson, Takk McKinley, Chido Awuzie, Justin Simmons ect if you could offer enoguh to pry them away. Edited October 27, 2020 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: On who? Who are these 10 million dollar gems that push us over the top? You suggested Watt who’s cost is double that and he’s on the decline. We’re not ready to go all in yet imo, not with the excessive holes on this defense. They’re not a player or two away. As I said though, I do hope they’re buyers and can improve, but I don’t think they need to be splash moves. As far as why we’re not spending a bunch of money, I’m guessing it has to do with the potential cap number in ‘21 being such an uncertainty with some reports of A potential huge reduction. How much can we save by cutting or trading baker? but I disagree that we’re not ready to contend. We are so weak at Lb and FS that even 2 above average players there could make a huge difference for this defense. The front 4 is fine. The CBS are ok. Harrison is ok at SS. Mack is decent at Lb. just add a FS and at least one LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) Trading for gilmore would give us a 7.5 million this year and 8 million next year on the cap. Putting him vs no. Wr on the other side would help our defense no end. Pff only grade him at a 61. He has 2 pds and 1 int. So he probably isn't playing all that well. Edited October 27, 2020 by Kiwibrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: How much can we save by cutting or trading baker? but I disagree that we’re not ready to contend. We are so weak at Lb and FS that even 2 above average players there could make a huge difference for this defense. The front 4 is fine. The CBS are ok. Harrison is ok at SS. Mack is decent at Lb. just add a FS and at least one LB. I agree we need a LB and FS. I can’t believe I get to be the one who craps all over a positive statement, but you’re delusional if you think this defense is a mediocre FS and LB away from being good enough to lean on to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I agree we need a LB and FS. I can’t believe I get to be the one who craps all over a positive statement, but you’re delusional if you think this defense is a mediocre FS and LB away from being good enough to lean on to win. I’ve seen teams play after play isolate sendejo and score on him or get a huge play on him. More than anyone else on the team by far. Find an above average player at that position alone and we’ll save at least a score and a half per game. Not even exaggerating. Hell they won 5 games this year with that atrocity out there giving up a big play every drive. Imagine what would happen if he wasn’t there anymore to give that up. Now add a LB who knows how to tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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