LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Aside from this: https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/12/10/23503313/browns-offense-explosive-plays-in-the-league-this-year Which, to be fair to your point, you're talking specifically about PASSING plays...it is noteworthy to say that we did almost all of that with JB at the helm. Yeah, just pass plays, our run game has been great. I also think the idea of a 10 yard run and a 20 yard pass being weighted the same is kinda dumb. Yards are yards. Based on that graphic an 11 yard run is weighted equally to say a 60 yard reception. Like, they’re not the same lol. 37 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I think a good portion of that is on the QB and WR position(s). Given that we had a good many GM's intentionally neglect the WR position via the draft and/or had a QB who couldn't hit those big chunk plays in Mayfield, He actually did really well with this in like 2018 throwing to Perriman, Calloway, etc. 37 minutes ago, MWil23 said: coupled with dudes that we traded for not panning out (OBJ), and here we are. https://www.news-herald.com/2023/01/09/stefanski-looking-for-more-explosive-plays-for-watson-and-browns-in-2023/ Yeah, has to happen. We need more easy scores. We can’t continue to expect the offense to drive the ball, down the field for 12-15 plays or some ish. 37 minutes ago, MWil23 said: He also understands and acknowledges that we need to do a better job of that this year. I think on paper Elijah Moore gives this team that missing dimension of a vertical threat, coupled with DPJ and Cooper on the outside. Goodwin too. He’s older and limited, but he’s still a legit burner. The TE from Houston had some nice highlights also. Definitely more than Bryant or Carlson or Hooper recently. 37 minutes ago, MWil23 said: What's interesting to me is that I think we're going to go away from the 2 TE look and go heavy 3x1 while still maintaining a lot of motion and other concepts presnap. As in using a TE in the slot I assume? Akins and Njoku are athletic, it could be really nice. Hard to defend to, you’re pretty much required to cover those dudes with a linebacker or you’re really exposed in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah, just pass plays, our run game has been great. I also think the idea of a 10 yard run and a 20 yard pass being weighted the same is kinda dumb. Yards are yards. Based on that graphic an 11 yard run is weighted equally to say a 60 yard reception. Like, they’re not the same lol. Especially with the rules in today's league, no doubt. 9 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: He actually did really well with this in like 2018 throwing to Perriman, Calloway, etc. But that wasn't with KS and IMO, it's a pretty clear outlier in his 5 year NFL career. 9 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah, has to happen. We need more easy scores. We can’t continue to expect the offense to drive the ball, down the field for 12-15 plays or some ish. I think the scripted first drives are awesome and then after that, there's a noticeable dropoff, which needs to result in more of those explosive scores or at least explosive plays that result in 7 points. 9 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Goodwin too. He’s older and limited, but he’s still a legit burner. The TE from Houston had some nice highlights also. Definitely more than Bryant or Carlson or Hooper recently. Goodwin is a guy who I think is likely a one trick pony, but if that one trick is keeping a safety out of the box and occasionally doing something, that's fine with me. 9 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: As in using a TE in the slot I assume? Akins and Njoku are athletic, it could be really nice. Hard to defend to, you’re pretty much required to cover those dudes with a linebacker or you’re really exposed in the run game. Yeah, I think you'll see a lot of Cooper, DPJ, Moore, and Njoku personnel packages and less of the Cooper, DPJ, Njoku, and Bryant/Atkins packages. Unless they want Atkins and Njoku as their 2 TE personnel and then flex Njoku in the slot, which wouldn't be bad either, especially down in the Red Zone where you have the run/pass scoring threat by making defenses pick and choose their personnel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 Jersey number swaps https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-zadarius-smith-rodney-mcleod-number-changes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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candyman93 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 Not a lot of guys averaged over 25 yards a return. There’s no real incentive to have a kickoff return specialist. Just focus on punt return teams. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/view/special/table/returning/sort/yardsPerKickReturn/dir/desc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Not a lot of guys averaged over 25 yards a return. There’s no real incentive to have a kickoff return specialist. Just focus on punt return teams. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/view/special/table/returning/sort/yardsPerKickReturn/dir/desc Absolutely no reason to bring a kick out at this point tbh. At this point all the kicking team can do is try to kick the ball as high as possible and as funky as possible and hope the returner muffs the fair catch. This is going to be such a stupid formality most of the time. Just give he team the option of taking it at the 25 unless the opposing team wants to try an onside kick and move the game along. commercial -> fair catch -> commercial is gonna be mind numbing. But yeah, focus on punt teams. Gotta wonder how much this impacts the makeup of rosters too. Guys we signed like Adams and Ford and their special teams prowess is going to have a diminished impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Guys we signed like Adams and Ford and their special teams prowess is going to have a diminished impact. It depends on their skill set. If they’re great gunners like Ford allegedly is, they’ll stick around. I want us to keep those special teams guys Ventrone wants. So Adams and Ford should stay. Edited May 24, 2023 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, candyman93 said: It depends on their skill set. If they’re great gunners like Ford allegedly is, they’ll stick around. I want us to keep those special teams guys Ventrone wants. So Adams and Ford should stay. I don’t disagree. It would be nice to get back to actually having special teams that can make big plays and maybe win you a game every now and then. At a minimum just not lose us games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: At a minimum just not lose us games This is literally all I care about. Just don’t screw up. The only special teams stud we might not keep is Jordan Kunaszyk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, candyman93 said: The only special teams stud we might not keep is Jordan Kunaszyk. I sincerely hope he gets beaten out by Charlie Thomas (UDFA Rookie). I love Thomas & think he has the physical upside to contribute at actual linebacker, whereas Kunaszyk is pure ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dawgpoun8017 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 43 minutes ago, candyman93 said: When healthy he is a good back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 59 minutes ago, candyman93 said: In my mind he is either retired or on a roster. The runningback life is brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 Another RB who visited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: Another RB who visited He’ll never make it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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