Deadpulse Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/06/29/cam-newton-new-england-patriots-team-doctors-covid?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=themmqb Quote Newton’s last full-time coordinator in Charlotte, Norv Turner, was asked by a friend where Cam would land, and Turner matter-of-factly answered, “Oh, he’s going to New England.” The ex-Panther play-caller didn’t actually know that was about to happen. But he figured it sure could. Especially since he was one of the coaches Belichick called for a reference on Newton, with Turner offering a strong recommendation to the New England coach a couple months back. Side note, Stephen A (so a MASSIVE grain of salt), claims they were weighing Kap as well as Cam but decided to go with Newton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhunt2402 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Deadpulse said: you know its big news when @dhunt2402 comes out of the woodwork Just waiting for a @Canadian_Patriot sighting to confirm the world is, indeed, ending 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Apparition Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Cam Newton's numbers in 2 games against New England: 41/57, 525 yards, 6 TD, 1 INT 15 rushes, 106 yards, 1 TD This is why Belichick made this signing. He's always coveted players who cause problems for his own teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 11:13 AM, jofos said: If that's the case this could be a case of if you have two QBs you have none. When has that really ever been a thing? Pats held onto Jimmy for a bit. Eagles had their success with Wentz and Foles. Kaepernick backed up Smith successfully. Rodgers sat behind Favre. Broncos won a championship off the back of two QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: When has that really ever been a thing? Pats held onto Jimmy for a bit. Eagles had their success with Wentz and Foles. Kaepernick backed up Smith successfully. Rodgers sat behind Favre. Broncos won a championship off the back of two QBs. I dont disagree with you, but there are also plenty of examples of coaches pulling their preferred starter for guys the fans clamor for after pressure from ownership. QB controversies exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Deadpulse said: I dont disagree with you, but there are also plenty of examples of coaches pulling their preferred starter for guys the fans clamor for after pressure from ownership. QB controversies exist. Yeah but QB controversies are different than “two is none” saying, right? If you’re pulling your preferred starter, it’s because he’s not playing quite well enough to outright keep the starting gig. Though to be fair, Cam/Stidham aren’t really a “two is none” scenario either. There are too many question marks regarding both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 At this point, QB battles can be nothing but good IMO. In-season, that may be a different story. If Cam doesn't outright win the job in camp, I don't expect him to be on the bench week 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofos Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: When has that really ever been a thing? Pats held onto Jimmy for a bit. Eagles had their success with Wentz and Foles. Kaepernick backed up Smith successfully. Rodgers sat behind Favre. Broncos won a championship off the back of two QBs. It's a thing in a rushed year where neither QB can be in the building until training camp and there are only so many reps to go around. My point is that a true QB competition that last more than a few days means that whoever wins will likely still be behind week one. Also Jimmy G was actually battling for Brady's job and Foles would have never played if Wentz doesn't get hurt. All the guys you mention were taking number second team reps. Edited June 30, 2020 by jofos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, jofos said: It's a thing in a rushed year where neither QB can be in the building until training camp and there are only so many reps to go around. My point is that a true QB competition that last more than a few days means that whoever wins will likely still be behind week one. And the same holds true for Teddy Bridgewater. Or Joe Burrow. Or Tua. Or Herbert. Or Rivers. Or Brady. Or Foles. It’s not ideal for anyone. Quote Also Jimmy G was actually battling for Brady's job and Foles would have never played if Wentz doesn't get hurt. All the guys you mention were taking number second team reps. Jimmy was never competing with Tom. And yes, Foles wouldn’t have played. But they’re all examples of having two QBs isn’t a bad thing. The Eagles wouldn’t have won their only championship in franchise history without a second guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofos Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: And the same holds true for Teddy Bridgewater. Or Joe Burrow. Or Tua. Or Herbert. Or Rivers. Or Brady. Or Foles. It’s not ideal for anyone. Jimmy was never competing with Tom. And yes, Foles wouldn’t have played. But they’re all examples of having two QBs isn’t a bad thing. The Eagles wouldn’t have won their only championship in franchise history without a second guy. Bridgewater, Burrow, Rivers, and Brady will not be splitting first team reps with anyone. Tua and Herbet will likely not be week one starters nor are their teams expected to contend. Foles will be in a similar situation. I'm not saying having two QBs is a bad thing. My post was in response to a post saying that Newton signing had nothing to do with what the Patriots think of Stidham. What I am saying is that splitting first team reps is a bad thing. The reason that QBs and WR are working together in the offseason is to build chemistry. This year has be harder than most to do that. So if Newton and Stidham split reps then it will be hard to be ready for week one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, jofos said: Bridgewater, Burrow, Rivers, and Brady will not be splitting first team reps with anyone. Tua and Herbet will likely not be week one starters nor are their teams expected to contend. Foles will be in a similar situation. You said they’ll be behind because players won’t be in the building till camp. They’re all behind the 8-ball in that regard too. 5 minutes ago, jofos said: I'm not saying having two QBs is a bad thing. My post was in response to a post saying that Newton signing had nothing to do with what the Patriots think of Stidham. What I am saying is that splitting first team reps is a bad thing. The reason that QBs and WR are working together in the offseason is to build chemistry. This year has be harder than most to do that. So if Newton and Stidham split reps then it will be hard to be ready for week one. It’s not ideal for chemistry, true. I’ll say one thing to possibly ease your mind, chemistry isn’t everything. For Brady it was a big thing, a really big thing. Trust, precision, brain share. There’s zero chance Stidham will be at level this early, and I’m not sure Cam has ever been that type of player either. Hopefully the receivers step up enough where they can work with anyone that can get them the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hunter2_1 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14 hours ago, Starless said: Cam Newton's numbers in 2 games against New England: 41/57, 525 yards, 6 TD, 1 INT 15 rushes, 106 yards, 1 TD This is why Belichick made this signing. He's always coveted players who cause problems for his own teams. He ruined us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I'm not worried about the acclimation for Newton or the chemistry with Stidham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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