Forge Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: I know he doesn't have the wear and tear. I thought for most RBs though that age was a major factor, regardless of usage? (That is unless you're AD or Frank Gore) Truthfully, I dunno. I don't know that there's a big enough sample size or the research has been done. I'd hedge toward mileage, as the drop in production for rbs who carry a certain number of times has been spoken of before, and that often comes regardless of age 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Forge said: Truthfully, I dunno. I don't know that there's a big enough sample size or the research has been done. I'd hedge toward mileage, as the drop in production for rbs who carry a certain number of times has been spoken of before, and that often comes regardless of age 1800 carries I believe used to be the number at which a RB begins to slow down or drop off, historically speaking. Not sure if that was only carries, with RBs being used in the passing game more and more often I would assume the wear and tear from those touches would be used in combination with carries. Mostert is far from that number, like stupid little usage. But I can’t think of a ton of RBs who really came on late in their careers and stayed good - great for very long. In terms of age and the “historical” drop off point I believe 30 is the usual marker, newer write ups I’ve seen has the marker at 28, but I believe that number more or less applies to guys who have consistently seen touches throughout their careers. Edited July 28, 2020 by Fureys49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Fureys49ers said: 1800 carries I believe used to be the number at which a RB begins to slow down or drop off, historically speaking. Not sure if that was only carries, with RBs being used in the passing game more and more often I would assume the wear and tear from those touches would be used in combination with carries. Stats guys typically talked about RB "touches" (runs + catches) because you're taking punishment for both. Teams used to run lead backs into the ground - if you look at the link, there are some insane numbers (rushing attempts only, I added the rec's below) - Larry Johnson with 457 touches in 2006 - Priest Holmes had 394 touches in 2003 - Mostert has 198 touches for his career https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_att_single_season.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 3:14 PM, N4L said: despite his age, he has very few miles on the odometer due to the fact he was never a starting running back in the NFL nor college until this past season. That is, unless you count the miles he ran against the packers in the NFCCG! Fair enough i guess. But he is still encroaching on that age where RBs start to deteriorate, lose explosive power, and fade off into the sunset regardless. And there are still a ton of practice miles on his body, a ton a training hours on the clock, just a ton of everything that comes with a RB at that age. It's not the same as a "fresh out of college" option that can be had with a nothing pick. He's kind of the worst of both worlds. A guy who has a lot of miles on his body...but without the in game yardage experience to have that savvy to compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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