jebrick Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Quote On Tuesday, NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported that the NFLPA informed its board of representatives that the league has had discussions about holding 35% of players’ salaries in escrow in an effort to make up for the inevitable lost revenue during the 2020 season due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Quote This is gonna be a contentious couple of weeks between the NFL and the NFLPA. I HOPE it stays behind closed doors but, I feel like this tweet is a rather large implication that it will not. Fireworks coming. Ultimately season will be played tho... right? — Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) The article is Steeler centric ( as it is a Pittsburgh paper) but id does highlight what others pointed out months ago. If there is no or limited season in 2020, the revenue/salary cap will drop in 2021. A lot. But the NFLPA and the Owners can negociate but will they? https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2020/07/08/nfl-proposed-pay-cut-escrow-35-percent-steelers-reaction-devin-bush/stories/202007080137 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonChigurh Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 That escrow stuff is nonsense. Just an excuse to steal from the players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, AntonChigurh said: That escrow stuff is nonsense. Just an excuse to steal from the players. It's a cash flow thing. It's a way for the owners to avoid doing more creative things to keep the operation going. Or rather, a way for them to keep their personal cash flow going. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Let's pop this to Gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, theJ said: It's a cash flow thing. It's a way for the owners to avoid doing more creative things to keep the operation going. Or rather, a way for them to keep their personal cash flow going. Maybe these owners should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and stopping living cash dump to cash dump. If they say, cut back on the square footage of their yachts and stop buying avocado toast, they could live well within their means. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, animaltested said: Maybe these owners should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and stopping living cash dump to cash dump. If they say, cut back on the square footage of their yachts and stop buying avocado toast, they could live well within their means. Hey man, i agree. I think it's a little ludicrous. Billionaires, making sure they can maintain their lifestyle while keeping 35% of a 7th round rookie's paycheck. What makes it worse is that they know this will bounce back in 2021. It's not like they're risking anything long term. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 When I see 'brewing war' I'm thinking Bud Light vs Miller Lite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, FinSting said: When I see 'brewing war' I'm thinking Bud Light vs Miller Lite Gross on both counts, go with some flavor and get a local brew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I know there really isnt precedent, but wouldnt they think to put a clause in case of emergency shut down of the league in the CBA? Maybe not like specefic this is the step by step in any shut down situation because any situation like this one is too nuanced to know what to put. I mean like a clause that states if the league must suspend games indefinitely for x amount of time due to circumstances outside of anyone's control owners can do x, y, and z to preserve the financial well being of their franchise until/unless play resumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Deadpulse said: I know there really isnt precedent, but wouldnt they think to put a clause in case of emergency shut down of the league in the CBA? Maybe not like specefic this is the step by step in any shut down situation because any situation like this one is too nuanced to know what to put. I mean like a clause that states if the league must suspend games indefinitely for x amount of time due to circumstances outside of anyone's control owners can do x, y, and z to preserve the financial well being of their franchise until/unless play resumes. There is. The problem is that it is meant for if they aren't playing any games. If ownership cancelled the season outright (like could have happened in MLB) then the players wouldn't get paid a dime. If they only played half a season, they's get 8 games worth of game checks. The problem is, it's impossible to forsee what exactly this season will look like revenue wise with no fans, some fans, full fans and that's what needs to be negotiated Players salaries via the salary cap are a percentage of "Football Related Revenue" or whatever terminology the NFL uses. The new CBA with the 17th game added got the players (as a whole) up to 48.5% of FRR I believe. The problem is, if revenues are down 25% for 2020 how do they recoup that 25% from the players in 2020? Through escrow (withholding salaries) That's how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 There is a provision in the CBA for handling large drops in the revenue but both side need to negotiate. https://sportsnaut.com/2020/05/report-nfl-could-use-flat-cap-to-account-for-revenue-hit-this-season-due-to-coronavirus/ This might be a bargaining point by the owners but it still needs to get solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Should’ve frontloaded Mahomes contract then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 from the new CBA deal: What about existing contracts that run into seasons that could expand to 17 games? Will those be adjusted? "Yes. Any player who is under contract when the new CBA is signed and remains on that contract in a year in which the league plays 17 games will receive a bonus of 1/17th of his salary if he's on the roster on the date of that 17th game. So, to make it simple: If your current contract says you're scheduled to earn $17 million in 2021, and the league expands to 17 games that season, you get an extra $1 million as long as you're on the roster on the date of that 17th game." So if they go to 17 reg season games next year, does that put added pressure on the cap space for each team ? It could be a couple of million$$ / each to cover existing contracts in a 17 game season. That would make it even harder to keep the 2021 cap flat or reduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyTheGoffer Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I just think of the Dak Prescott contract and how smart it would seem to be for Jerry to have him play on the TAG this season and use CAP % argument in contract talks next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie89 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 10/07/2020 at 4:05 PM, daineraider said: Gross on both counts, go with some flavor and get a local brew. What if you live in Milwaukee or St. Louis? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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