GSUeagles14 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 hours ago, scar988 said: The O-line might finally be better. Lindstrom and McGary being healthy this year would help a lot. Mack and MAtthews staying healthy would be good too. If Hennessy comes in and plays average all year, that'd be perfect for them becuase Matthews and Mack are Pro Bowl talents and Lindstrom will probably be there one day too. McGary is a solid RT when he puts it together, but he looked terrible as a freshman in college before his sophomore year getting a nice boost in his play. I think the OL is solid enough now. But Koetter is terrible. He's the Aquaman of the Falcons OC's under Ryan's history. no way in the world can you call mcgary solid. he was awful last year. beyond awful. maybe he improves, but youre being a homer if you call him anything but bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 18 hours ago, GSUeagles14 said: no way in the world can you call mcgary solid. he was awful last year. beyond awful. maybe he improves, but youre being a homer if you call him anything but bad. He was solid in some games. Wasn't consistent though. Overarching awful. But right now, he did show flashes. I like that he's been working with Forney for the last few months to improve technique and with Lindstrom to improve chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroracan Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Is he going to win a SB? Who the hell knows, it’s too team dependent. However, individually Ryan is capable of elite QB play. He was always borderline elite but he finally pushed himself over the edge a few years ago, unless you’re convinced the first half of last season under Koetter is more indicative of his future play Ryan’s last few postseason runs have featured some stellar QB play. 70%+ completion, 400 ypg, and 7 TD/1 INT in his 2 NFCCG. I believe his SB rating was one of the highest. So, will the falcons win a SB? Don’t know. But they have a QB who’s demonstrated elite ability including in the most important part - the postseason - so they certainly have a chance going into each year until he hangs it up Edited August 30, 2020 by Auroracan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Let's hope not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 18 hours ago, Auroracan said: Is he going to win a SB? Who the hell knows, it’s too team dependent. However, individually Ryan is capable of elite QB play. He was always borderline elite but he finally pushed himself over the edge a few years ago, unless you’re convinced the first half of last season under Koetter is more indicative of his future play Ryan’s last few postseason runs have featured some stellar QB play. 70%+ completion, 400 ypg, and 7 TD/1 INT in his 2 NFCCG. I believe his SB rating was one of the highest. So, will the falcons win a SB? Don’t know. But they have a QB who’s demonstrated elite ability including in the most important part - the postseason - so they certainly have a chance going into each year until he hangs it up Exactly. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Not with Dan Quinn as HC lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 A better question is "if the Falcons have a bad year, you go all out to secure Fields if he's projected as the #2 prospect?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Tetsujin said: A better question is "if the Falcons have a bad year, you go all out to secure Fields if he's projected as the #2 prospect?" Again, no. If the Falcons have a bad year, it won't be because of Matt Ryan. People crap on him for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, scar988 said: Again, no. If the Falcons have a bad year, it won't be because of Matt Ryan. People crap on him for no reason. He may have some good years left, but the opportunity to draft a young bigtime QB talent doesn't come around often, especially one from a team's area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 16 hours ago, Drained said: Not with Dan Quinn as HC lol This is my thoughts. Ryan himself has the ability to win, provided his coaching staff can get the rest of the team playing to their ability. Right now, I have Quinn in the Bill O'Brien/Doug Marrone/Matt Patricia bracket - which means he's going to find a way to lose when it matters. It should not be a knock on Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ET80 said: This is my thoughts. Ryan himself has the ability to win, provided his coaching staff can get the rest of the team playing to their ability. Right now, I have Quinn in the Bill O'Brien/Doug Marrone/Matt Patricia bracket - which means he's going to find a way to lose when it matters. It should not be a knock on Ryan. I tend to agree. But I do think Quinn has potential to be much better than those 3. He actually has the players that like him. The question is whether he can learn from his mistakes. He seemed to do well at that the second half of 2019 and having Morris and Ulbrich take over the defense with Whitt and Tupou coming in as coaches should help that side of the ball. The OL needs to play better, but two guys being 2nd year players and not straight rookies should help. It comes down to health at a certain point too. Team just needs to stay healthy. Losing Neal and Allen in 2018 and losing half the OL in 2019 killed those seasons. Edited September 1, 2020 by scar988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 hours ago, ET80 said: This is my thoughts. Ryan himself has the ability to win, provided his coaching staff can get the rest of the team playing to their ability. Right now, I have Quinn in the Bill O'Brien/Doug Marrone/Matt Patricia bracket - which means he's going to find a way to lose when it matters. It should not be a knock on Ryan. This is my fear about Deshaun too though. Dan Quinn has good years that make fans like him again, he has bad years that make fans call for him to be on the hot seat. This is the exact situation with BoB at the moment. I really hope we don't waste a HOF talent like the Falcons have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, scar988 said: I tend to agree. But I do think Quinn has potential to be much better than those 3. He actually has the players that like him. The question is whether he can learn from his mistakes. He seemed to do well at that the second half of 2019 and having Morris and Ulbrich take over the defense with Whitt and Tupou coming in as coaches should help that side of the ball. The OL needs to play better, but two guys being 2nd year players and not straight rookies should help. It comes down to health at a certain point too. Team just needs to stay healthy. Losing Neal and Allen in 2018 and losing half the OL in 2019 killed those seasons. Players at Houston love BoB but its the same with Jason Garrett and the Cowboys, sure, he's loved within the organization and by the players but does that matter if he keeps making every year look like a struggle with a good team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Drained said: Players at Houston love BoB but its the same with Jason Garrett and the Cowboys, sure, he's loved within the organization and by the players but does that matter if he keeps making every year look like a struggle with a good team? That's a fair point. I think this year, it's playoffs or bust. If the team does well this year, he's keeping his job and so is Dimitroff. They just have to make the playoffs. The past two years have been a bit snake bitten which has hurt, but that can't be the true excuse. Unlike the last two years, that can't be an excuse this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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