theJ Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 Little bout of insomnia last night, so you guys get the current top 10 in this draft class to noodle over until i get back to this either Sunday night or Monday. In-season scouting update (All-Star Break) Position Name Projection Age Height WGT OVR POT IN OUT PER D PST D HNDL REB IQ ATH PG Marty McGuire Top 5 21 6'2" 202 A- A+ C+ B+ B- F A- F B- A- PF Elden Samuel Top 5 22 6'9" 254 B A+ B- D+ D C D- B C B- SF Len Davenport Top 5 22 6'9" 247 B A+ C D+ B+ B- D+ D C A- PF Chad Elliott Top 5 20 6'9" 244 A- B C+ D- D+ B D B+ B B+ PF Dwayne Coleman Top 5 19 6'9" 226 B A+ C+ C- C- B D- B- C+ B- PG Shane Slay Lottery 19 6'0" 200 C B- D+ C- B- F- B+ F- D+ B- SF Jonathan Westphal Lottery 23 6'7" 224 C B- C- D+ D+ F+ D D+ C B C Chucky Green Lottery 21 7'1" 257 C- A C D F B- F B D+ C SG Owen Conley Lottery 22 6'4" 206 C- B D+ C C- F C F- D+ B- SG Lamond Forte Lottery 22 6'6" 199 C B- D+ D+ C+ F+ C F C B Top to bottom, way more talent in this draft class. Marty McGuire stands out as the most talented and best potential, long term. Dwayne Coleman may end up being the best get though. 19 years old, and can already come into the league defending and rebounding. Scouting reports aren't final though. I'll scout most of these guys at least once, maybe two more times before the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 Also, a few other in-season all-star break notes. 2014 All Star Break Record Magic currently have a 18-32 record, good for last place Nuggets - 30-25 (22nd pick) Suns - 22-32 (6th best chance in lottery) I own all three picks from trades over the last two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 Haha i'm currently scouting a guy that's probably a nobody, but i really hope he turns out good because i'd love to have him on my team for years to come. Pandazis Diamantopoulous What a name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 One more thing - i found out that if you go to Edit Player, you can see the players actual potential number. What's interesting is that Dale Burke and Body Landry are both showing as B- potential, yet Dale's potential is 89 and Coby's is 68. I suspect that the potential doesn't refer to overall potential, but rather to potential referenced to the players overall rating. So dale can improve by roughly 16 points (73 to 89), and Coby can improve by 17 (51 to 68). So the B- isn't a death knell for Burke. Oh, and i also earned 80 reward points, enough to use do the Untapped Potential training camp and raise one player's potential by 10 points. After the draft i'll decide who to use it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 I have a few more updates to post (stats, season records, etc). But until I get to that, here are some draft related items if anyone wants to speculate on who I should pick. I ended up with the worst record, and the Suns had the 2nd worst. I ended up with the 1st and 3rd picks in the lottery! I also have the Nuggets pick, at #20. Here's the final draft board. The only position I have set long term is SF. So I'm open to any position really. Thoughts on who I should take? Post Season Scouting Update (Only Top Targets Listed) Position Name Projection Age Height WGT OVR POT IN OUT PER D PST D HNDL REB IQ ATH PG Marty McGuire Top 5 21 6'2" 202 A- A+ C B B- F A- F B- B+ PF Elden Samuel Top 5 22 6'9" 254 B- A+ B- D+ D C D- B C- B- SF Len Davenport Top 5 22 6'9" 247 B A+ C D+ B+ B- D+ D C A- PF Chad Elliott Top 5 20 6'9" 244 A- B+ C+ D D+ B- D B+ B- B+ PF Dwayne Coleman Top 5 19 6'9" 226 B A+ C+ C- C- B F+ B- C B- PG Shane Slay Lottery 19 6'0" 200 C B+ D+ C- B- F- B+ F- D+ B- SF Jonathan Westphal Lottery 23 6'7" 224 C B- C- D+ D+ F+ D D+ C B C Chucky Green Lottery 21 7'1" 257 C- A+ C D+ F B- F B D+ C+ SG Owen Conley Lottery 22 6'4" 206 C- B D+ C C- F C- F- D+ B- SG Lamond Forte Lottery 22 6'6" 199 C B C- D+ C+ F+ C F C B+ SG Stephon Gilmore Lottery 24 6'5" 217 C C+ C- B- B- F+ C F D B- PG Coby Wilkes Lottery 21 6'0" 183 C+ C D+ C B F- B+ F- C- B SG Carlos Gomez Lottery 23 6'6" 206 C C+ C- C+ C F+ C- F D B SG Cliff Peterson Lottery 21 6'5" 224 C C C- C+ C+ F C F D B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I would take PG McGuire #1. He can play D and shoot, both you need at the Guard position. Then I would take PF Elliot at 3. Yes Samuel has a higher potential rating, but Eliot has a higher OVR now which mitigates some of that, plus he’s a better interior defender, rebounder, and athlete. Id try to get someone who can shoot at 20, otherwise just take a Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, MKnight82 said: I would take PG McGuire #1. He can play D and shoot, both you need at the Guard position. Then I would take PF Elliot at 3. Yes Samuel has a higher potential rating, but Eliot has a higher OVR now which mitigates some of that, plus he’s a better interior defender, rebounder, and athlete. Id try to get someone who can shoot at 20, otherwise just take a Center. Yeah I was thinking McGuire for sure at #1. He may play SG for me this season in Jameer Nelson's last year. Then switch to point. I had been waffling between Elliot and Samuel at #3. I probably won't have the option of a Center at #20. The options are pretty bad after Chucky Green. I'm hoping one of those Lottery SGs falls. I'm guessing they'll probably be serviceable in a few seasons time. For now they can provide a few minutes off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 A few updates to catch up on that i blew past in an effort to get the draft board up. During the season I signed Hedo Turkoglu to a 1 year extension worth 1.39M. Good depth piece for next year. 27-55 Record, worst in the league Suns had 29-53 record, 2nd worst in the league Nuggets were 44-38 and had the 20th pick in the draft Once i hit the offseason, here was the player progression. Burke took a nice step forward, everyone else was predictable. I can probably get another two years out of Gibson, one more out of Glen Davis. Everyone else needs replaced ASAP. 2014 Off-season Player Progression Position Name New OVR Improvement Prv OVR SF Dale Burke 79 6 73 PF Taj Gibson 77 0 77 PF Glen Davis 72 0 72 SG Corey Brewer 70 -1 71 SG Nick Young 69 -3 72 PG Jameer Nelson 69 -4 73 SF Hedo Turkoglu 67 -3 70 PF Al Harrington 65 -3 68 C Nikola Vucevic 64 1 63 PG Chris Duhon 63 -3 66 PF Robin Cartwright 57 3 54 C Coby Landry 53 3 50 Presumed roster for next year, with the Hedo signing, and in-season trades. Blanks are draft picks, obv. 2015 Partial Roster Position Name Age OVR Potential Yearly Salary Years Left PG Jameer Nelson 32 69 - 8 1 SG SF Dale Burke 22 79 B- 3.84 1+2T PF PF Taj Gibson 29 77 B 5.63 1+1P SG Nick Young 29 69 D+ 4.11 1+1P PF Glen Davis 28 72 C+ 6.4 1 SG Corey Brewer 29 70 C+ 2.02 2+1T SF Hedo Turkoglu 35 67 - 1.39 1 SF Al Harrington 34 65 7.15 1 C Nikola Vucevic 24 64 D- 1.89 1T PF Robin Cartwright 22 57 C 0.789 1T PF Coby Landry 21 53 B- 0.723 1T Will post final player stats in the next post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 2014 final stats and awards 2014 Season Awards MVP Lebron James Heat ROY Dale Burke Magic 6th Man Mo Gatson 76ers DPOY Dwight Howard Lakers Most Improved Derrick Williams Timberwolves COY Avery Johnson Nets Dale had the most playing time of most rookies, so he kind of made it easy, even though his stats weren't great (see below). 2014 Season Player Stats Position Name PPG RPG APG SPG BPG PG Jameer Nelson 14.5 3.5 8 1 0 SF Dale Burke 14.4 6 0.9 1 0.5 PF Taj Gibson 14.2 8.3 0.4 1.4 1.5 SG Corey Brewer 12 5.7 3.2 1.5 0.2 PF Glen Davis 11.4 6.7 0.4 0.2 0.4 I need better passers on my team. 2013 Team Stats 2014 Team Stats Per Game League Rank Per Game League Rank Off Pts/Game 95.3 30th 92.1 30th Def Pts/Game 106.1 30th 98.6 8th RPG 43.4 29th 45.3 24th APG 21.5 16th 19 30th SPG 7.4 4th 6.4 29th BPG 2.6 30th 3.3 30th TOPG 13.5 7th 15.1 26th Random stat - had the second most fouls in the league. Did much better defensively this season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 9:47 PM, theJ said: 2013 Opening roster Position Name Age OVR Potential Yearly Salary Years Left PG Jameer Nelson 30 75 - 7.89 3 SG Aaron Afflalo 26 79 A- 7.56 3+1 SF Hedo Turkoglu 33 73 - 11.4 1+1 PF Glen Davis 26 72 B- 6.4 3 PF/C Al Harrington 32 71 - 6.69 3 PG Ish Smith 23 70 B- 1.35 1 SG JJ Reddick 28 70 C- 6 1 PF Andrew Nicholson 22 70 D 1.42 2+2 SF Quentin Richardson 32 69 2.63 1+1 PG Chris Duhon 29 69 3.68 2 SF Moe Harkless 19 66 C+ 1.73 2+2 PF Gustavo Ayon 27 64 C 1.5 1+1 C Nikola Vucevic 21 60 D- 1.77 1+2 PF Justin Harper 22 53 B- 0.76 1 Definitely some bad contracts here. wow this brings back some memories... @KhanYouDigIt @dtait93. henny's squad that was built around big baby. nicholson looking like a post god. duhon flirting with 8 second violations every trip up. jj redick looking like an all-star and everyone continuing to spell his name reddick despite the fact dudes been in the league like 20 years. magic fans all furious ish smith and justin harper aren't getting minutes. i'll be following this is good stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 Made a little progress this morning before work. Start of the 2014 Offseason Coaching Moves HC Dillon Kerr improved (now A Off, B Def, A teacher, B Pot) - one letter grade each Extended contract of prospect scout Marshall Gooden - 4 years, $1M/year Contract of Patrick Ewing, assistant coach, expired Hired assistant coach Joel Cooper (B Off, B Def, C Teacher, A Potential) Player Moves Took Team option for Nikola Vucevic (1 year, 2.9M) Took Team option for Robin Cartwright (1 year, 824K) Took Team option for Coby Landry (1 year, 756K) Random note: Carmelo Anthony declined his player option and is now a Free Agent No qualifying offers to report on Chris Duhon left in free agency due to lack of playing time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 14 hours ago, theJ said: 2015 Partial Roster Position Name Age OVR Potential Yearly Salary Years Left PG Jameer Nelson 32 69 - 8 1 SG SF Dale Burke 22 79 B- 3.84 1+2T PF PF Taj Gibson 29 77 B 5.63 1+1P SG Nick Young 29 69 D+ 4.11 1+1P PF Glen Davis 28 72 C+ 6.4 1 SG Corey Brewer 29 70 C+ 2.02 2+1T SF Hedo Turkoglu 35 67 - 1.39 1 SF Al Harrington 34 65 7.15 1 C Nikola Vucevic 24 64 D- 1.89 1T PF Robin Cartwright 22 57 C 0.789 1T PF Coby Landry 21 53 B- 0.723 1T Will post final player stats in the next post. I don't think Taj Gibson is a Center in 2013's NBA. You're obviously going PF at 3, I would try to flip Gibson for a future pick, then sign a starting Center in FA. I think you could use a veteran 6th man (scorer) in FA too, but that kind of depends how pick 20 goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, MKnight82 said: I don't think Taj Gibson is a Center in 2013's NBA. You're obviously going PF at 3, I would try to flip Gibson for a future pick, then sign a starting Center in FA. I think you could use a veteran 6th man (scorer) in FA too, but that kind of depends how pick 20 goes. This isn't your franchise MKnight, go do yours! We haven't had updates in ages! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, JBURGE said: This isn't your franchise MKnight, go do yours! We haven't had updates in ages! Hahaha, funny stuff. He's sort of right though. Taj will be out of position, and i had been thinking about that. I was originally going to throw caution to the wind and just let it happen because this team won't contend for a playoff spot until 2016. I will look at a trade - this is probably the last year i could realistically trade Taj. At the very least i can maybe flip him for a future 1st and target a big man in a future class. Big Baby could play Center (he's PF/C) for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, theJ said: Hahaha, funny stuff. He's sort of right though. Taj will be out of position, and i had been thinking about that. I was originally going to throw caution to the wind and just let it happen because this team won't contend for a playoff spot until 2016. I will look at a trade - this is probably the last year i could realistically trade Taj. At the very least i can maybe flip him for a future 1st and target a big man in a future class. Big Baby could play Center (he's PF/C) for this season. Oh he's definitely right. I just want to see what you choose to do. Mknight trying to back seat drive your franchise (kidding MK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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