Scoundrel Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, KingOfNewYork said: Adams getting toasted in deep coverage. What does that have to do with what I said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Seahawks Super Bowl odds still 12-1 post Adams trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Counselor said: What does that have to do with what I said? Adams got toasted in deep coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, KingOfNewYork said: Adams got toasted in deep coverage. Okay? And heck of a throw by Haskins to step and find his man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Counselor said: Okay? And heck of a throw by Haskins to step and find his man. And the throw was possible because Adams got toasted in deep coverage. So we agree then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said: And the throw was possible because Adams got toasted in deep coverage. So we agree then. Okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Counselor said: Okay Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, KingOfNewYork said: Yup. Okie Dokie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 3:54 AM, bigbadbuff said: hehe Incoming Titans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, KingOfNewYork said: So you traded 2 1's and a 3 to continue to come up short? Lol okay kid. Cardinals traded a 2 for an EDGE hoping to get better, they didn't even though Jones has been great but trading a 2 is completely different than trading 2 1's and a 3. So to clarify, you’re saying if a team makes a big trade and don’t win a SB as a result, it’s a bad trade? And if the Jets draft two studs with those picks, but never win a SB, was it a bad trade for them too? Edited July 31, 2020 by Yin-Yang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: So to clarify, you’re saying if a team makes a big trade and don’t win a SB as a result, it’s a bad trade? And if the Jets draft two studs with those picks, but never win a SB, was it a bad trade for them too? If the only measure of success is a SB win - which to be honest, it is - then yes. Edited July 31, 2020 by NJerseypaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, NJerseypaint said: If the only measure of success is a SB win - which to be honest, it is - then yes. NYJ - Draft two studs that become HOFers, spend their whole careers in NY, don’t win a chip - bad trade for NY. NYJ - Draft two busts that can’t become starters, barely even play on special teams, but win a SB - good trade for NY. Seattle - Fields a #1 defense for years, Adams makes the HOF and goes down as GOAT DB, but never hoists the Lombardi - bad trade for Seattle. Seattle - Adams completely crumbles, gives up NFL record amount of TDs, gets cut ASAP, but Seattle wins a SB - good trade for Seattle. If none of that makes any sense, then there you go. I’d expect NYJ fans to know how difficult it is to win a SB, and no single move will ever really do that for any team. To put the team building, coaching, and flat out luck, all on one single roster move is dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: NYJ - Draft two studs that become HOFers, spend their whole careers in NY, don’t win a chip - bad trade for NY. NYJ - Draft two busts that can’t become starters, barely even play on special teams, but win a SB - good trade for NY. Seattle - Fields a #1 defense for years, Adams makes the HOF and goes down as GOAT DB, but never hoists the Lombardi - bad trade for Seattle. Seattle - Adams completely crumbles, gives up NFL record amount of TDs, gets cut ASAP, but Seattle wins a SB - good trade for Seattle. If none of that makes any sense, then there you go. I’d expect NYJ fans to know how difficult it is to win a SB, and no single move will ever really do that for any team. To put the team building, coaching, and flat out luck, all on one single roster move is dumb. The trade needs to result in a SB win. Your two examples of winning an SB are despite the trade, so the trade would still be a bad trade. And I think fans of any team that have had SB droughts for as long as the Jets have had will tell you, it's nice to have all-stars on the team, but an SB win is much more meaningful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: The trade needs to result in a SB win. Your two examples of winning an SB are despite the trade, so the trade would still be a bad trade. And I think fans of any team that have had SB droughts for as long as the Jets have had will tell you, it's nice to have all-stars on the team, but an SB win is much more meaningful. It is more meaningful. But every move isn’t “win a SB or bust”, that’s exactly why bad teams stay bad. Do you think Belichick sees every move as a “this is putting us over the top to win the SB”? No, it’s every action is just to make the team better. There’s a difference between the SB being the end-goal for a team in any given season - which it is - and the SB being the only passable outcome for one roster move. Doesn’t make sense. A roster move can be a good roster move, and not result in a SB. A roster move can be a bad roster move, and still result in a SB. By your logic the only way a trade ever works out is if the player/picks pan out to the top degree and the team, no matter how bad it is, wins a championship. Was Revis a bad draft pick because he didn’t win one in NY? Was Rivers a bad move for SD because he hasn’t gotten there yet? Was LT, or Joe Thomas, or Gonzo, or Fitz, or AP, a bad pick because they were draft capital used on a player that ultimately never brought a championship? You can make good, smart moves that don’t make you a SB champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 @KingOfNewYork You seem particularly salty over losing Adams. I have a feeling a lot of the same Jets fans bad mouthing him now were also praising his play in recent threads. Did you buy his jersey or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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