Duffman57 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 QB: Chiefs RB Broncos (Really could go to any team this year, Ekeler/CEH have a shot to carry the load and be elite pass catchers) WR: Broncos TE: Chiefs OL: Raiders DL: Chargers (Depends on what you think of Von/Chubb as, but Bosa/Ingram IMO barely edge them out even if you do consider them) LB: Broncos (Again, could probably go to anyone not named the Chiefs, so much projection with all 3 teams, depends on what you say when you mean LB, Von/Chubb get included here) CB: Chargers (easily) S: Chargers This probably comes off way biased, but I think that the Chargers have a legitimate case at being the best at every single position group on D. Tranquill, Nwosu and Murray can be an absolutely elite group. A healthy Derwin is head and shoulders better than any other S in the pool and Nas/Jenkins could both match the best 2nd S, if Jenkins plays like he did in the 2nd half). If Tillery develops with the surrounding talent, or at the very least becomes a viable interior pass rushing threat, this is a scary DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 hours ago, J-ALL-DAY said: NFC West QB: Seahawks (Wilson)RB: Seahawks(Carson/Hyde)FB: 49ers (Juice Check)WR: Cardinals (Hopkins/Fitzgerald/Kirk)TE: 49ers (Kittle)OT: 49ers (Williams/McGlinchey)OG: Seahawks (Pugh/Sweezy? I really don't know, terrible guard play in this division)OC: 49ers (Richburg? Again pretty meh)DE: 49ers (Bosa/Ford/Blair/Armstead)DT: Rams (Donald/Brockers)LB: Seahawks (Wagner/Wright/Brooks)CB: Rams (Ramsey/Hill/Williams. Niners corners were better in 2019 but going with Rams here)S: Seahawks (Adams/Diggs)K: 49ers (Gould. Not the greatest of 2019 seasons, but had back to back seasons of going 33/34 and 39/41.)P: Rams (Hekker)RET: Rams (Let's just go with them but none of the returners in this division stand out.) Totals: 49ers - 6 Seahawks - 5 Rams - 4 Cardinals - 1 For G I think you meant Cardinals. Seattle currently has old and busted Mike Iupati, 2nd year Phil Haynes (2 starts) and 2020 3rd Pick Damien Lewis. Definitely not the best group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, animaltested said: For G I think you meant Cardinals. Seattle currently has old and busted Mike Iupati, 2nd year Phil Haynes (2 starts) and 2020 3rd Pick Damien Lewis. Definitely not the best group. Yes, good catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 NFC East QB: Eagles (Wentz) RB: Cowboys (Zeke/Pollard > Barkley/Lewis) WR: Cowboys (Cooper/Gallup/Lamb) TE: Eagles (Ertz/Goedert) OT: Cowboys (Smith/Collins > Johnson/Dillard) OG: Cowboys (Martin/Williams) OC: Eagles (Kelce) DE: Washington (Young/Kerrigan/Sweat/Anderson) DT: Eagles (Cox/Hargrave/Jackson) LB: Cowboys (Smith/LVE) CB: Eagles (Slay/NRC/Maddox/Jones) S: Giants (Peppers/Bethea) K: Eagles (Elliot) P: Washington (Way) RET: Washington (Sims) Eagles: 6 Cowboys: 5 Washington: 3 Giants : 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) I'd take Saquon infinity times out of infinity over Zeke. As far as NFCE guards go, Brooks/Seumalo win by a landslide when BB is healthy. Edited July 29, 2020 by EagleBlueDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: I'd take Saquon infinity times out of infinity over Zeke. As far as NFCE guards go, Brooks/Seumalo win by a landslide when BB is healthy. Not really. BB was the best in the league last year, but as a whole, Martin is #1 on the NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Danger said: Not really. BB was the best in the league last year, but as a whole, Martin is #1 on the NFL Well Seumalo is an above average ascending guard in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I'm going to go ahead and make a whole roster of NFC West players. It's a 3-4 base defense. Here's the depth chart: NFC West Offense: QBs (2): Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray (sorry Jared and Jimmy - all four QBs have a legitimate argument to be here) RB (3): Chris Carson, Kenyan Drake, Tevin Coleman FB (1): Kyle Juszczyk LWR (2): DeAndre Hopkins, DK Metcalf RWR (2): Tyler Lockett, Robert Woods SLWR (2): Cooper Kupp, Larry Fitzgerald TE (2): George Kittle, Tyler Higbee LT (2): Trent Williams, DJ Humphries LG (2): Justin Pugh, Laken Tomlinson C (2): Weston Richburg, Mason Cole RG (2): Tom Compton, Austin Blythe RT (2): Mike McGlinchey, Rob Havenstein NFC West Defense: LDE (3): Nick Bosa, Michael Brockers, Jarran Reed NT (2): Jordan Phillips, A'Shawn Robinson RDE (2): Aaron Donald, Arik Armstead LOLB (2): Chandler Jones, Samson Ebukam ROLB (3): Dee Ford, KJ Wright, Devon Kennard MLB (2): Bobby Wagner, Kwon Alexander ILB (2): Fred Warner, Isaiah Simmons LCB (2): Patrick Peterson, Troy Hill RCB (2): Jalen Ramsey, Shaquill Griffin NCB (2): Richard Sherman, K'Waun Williams FS (2): Budda Baker, John Johnson SS (2): Jamal Adams, Taylor Rapp Special Teams: K: Zane Gonzalez P: Johnny Hekker KR: Tyler Lockett PR: Tyler Lockett LS: Jake McQuaide 2 points for starter, 1 point for depth, 1 point for special teams: Seattle Seahawks - 16 (5 starters, 4 depth, 2 ST) Los Angeles Rams - 18 (3 starters, 10 depth, 2 ST) Arizona Cardinals - 20 (6 starters, 7 depth, 1 ST) San Francisco 49ers - 25 (10 starters, 5 depth) What do you guys think? Fellow NFC Westerners? @Forge @N4L @11sanchez11 @SaveOurSonics @jrry32 @DirtyDez @LuckyNumber11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, HoboRocket said: What do you guys think? Fellow NFC Westerners? @Forge @N4L @11sanchez11 @SaveOurSonics @jrry32 @DirtyDez @LuckyNumber11 From a niners perspective, mostert >>>>>>>> Coleman. That's not even close. Coleman didn't run with anywhere near the power, can't run through tackles, and you'll find most niner fans didn't even expect him to be on the team this year. He was the third best running back on the team last year. Compton is likely not the starting guard for the niners. We are guessing (hoping) it's brunskill. Compton is worse than last year's starter Mike person. Kicker should be Gould . Sherm is almost exclusively a LCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Forge said: From a niners perspective, mostert >>>>>>>> Coleman. That's not even close. Coleman didn't run with anywhere near the power, can't run through tackles, and you'll find most niner fans didn't even expect him to be on the team this year. He was the third best running back on the team last year. Compton is likely not the starting guard for the niners. We are guessing (hoping) it's brunskill. Compton is worse than last year's starter Mike person. Kicker should be Gould . Sherm is almost exclusively a LCB For Compton: he's still better than JR Sweezy, Ethan Pocic, and Austin Blythe For Sherman: I know, but it didn't feel fair to force one of him or Peterson onto the bench. That was one of the few times I bent the rules (the other being listing Nick Bosa/Dee Ford at opposite sides of the field from where they actually play so that they could be starters, instead of backups to Aaron Donald/Chandler Jones). For Gould: Gould was quietly terrible this past year, but the team was just so dominant that it flew under the radar. Meanwhile, Gonzalez has been clutch with the Cardinals and hasn't really whiffed on gimmes the way that Gould/Myers have. His misses have been on difficult kicks, and he's a high-percentage clutch kicker. They're very similar. Obviously, Gould has the track record as someone who has been in the league for like 16 seasons. However, I just can't ignore how bad he was last year at range, considering his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, HoboRocket said: Gould was quietly terrible this past year, but the team was just so dominant that it flew under the radar. He was bad at the start of the year (and nearly half his misses for the season came in one game) when he was breaking in a new holder and we went through 4 long snappers. He made every fg but one (the miss coming in the rainstorm game at Baltimore) after getting our long snapper back and coming back from injury himself. He added 7/7 in the playoffs after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Forge said: He was bad at the start of the year (and nearly half his misses for the season came in one game) when he was breaking in a new holder and we went through 4 long snappers. He made every fg but one (the miss coming in the rainstorm game at Baltimore) after getting our long snapper back and coming back from injury himself. He added 7/7 in the playoffs after that. Dang, maybe I should put your LS over Jake McQuaide, then! I was on the fence with Gould. I really was. Also, on a semi-random side note, can you imagine an offensive personnel set that has Kittle, Higbee, Juice, Fitz, and DK on the field at the same time? That's like 5 TEs lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, HoboRocket said: Dang, maybe I should put your LS over Jake McQuaide He's only so good because of the PEDs (seriously, that's why he missed 8 games... Second PEDs suspension lol). Obviously, I'm joking about the "so good" part, but its funny to have your ls get busted for PEDs not once, but twice 2 minutes ago, HoboRocket said: Also, on a semi-random side note, can you imagine an offensive personnel set that has Kittle, Higbee, Juice, Fitz, and DK on the field at the same time? That's like 5 TEs lol. Could totally do some damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 37 minutes ago, HoboRocket said: I'm going to go ahead and make a whole roster of NFC West players. It's a 3-4 base defense. Here's the depth chart: NFC West Offense: QBs (2): Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray (sorry Jared and Jimmy - all four QBs have a legitimate argument to be here) RB (3): Chris Carson, Kenyan Drake, Tevin Coleman FB (1): Kyle Juszczyk LWR (2): DeAndre Hopkins, DK Metcalf RWR (2): Tyler Lockett, Robert Woods SLWR (2): Cooper Kupp, Larry Fitzgerald TE (2): George Kittle, Tyler Higbee LT (2): Trent Williams, DJ Humphries LG (2): Justin Pugh, Laken Tomlinson C (2): Weston Richburg, Mason Cole RG (2): Tom Compton, Austin Blythe RT (2): Mike McGlinchey, Rob Havenstein NFC West Defense: LDE (3): Nick Bosa, Michael Brockers, Jarran Reed NT (2): Jordan Phillips, A'Shawn Robinson RDE (2): Aaron Donald, Arik Armstead LOLB (2): Chandler Jones, Samson Ebukam ROLB (3): Dee Ford, KJ Wright, Devon Kennard MLB (2): Bobby Wagner, Kwon Alexander ILB (2): Fred Warner, Isaiah Simmons LCB (2): Patrick Peterson, Troy Hill RCB (2): Jalen Ramsey, Shaquill Griffin NCB (2): Richard Sherman, K'Waun Williams FS (2): Budda Baker, John Johnson SS (2): Jamal Adams, Taylor Rapp Special Teams: K: Zane Gonzalez P: Johnny Hekker KR: Tyler Lockett PR: Tyler Lockett LS: Jake McQuaide 2 points for starter, 1 point for depth, 1 point for special teams: Seattle Seahawks - 16 (5 starters, 4 depth, 2 ST) Los Angeles Rams - 18 (3 starters, 10 depth, 2 ST) Arizona Cardinals - 20 (6 starters, 7 depth, 1 ST) San Francisco 49ers - 25 (10 starters, 5 depth) What do you guys think? Fellow NFC Westerners? @Forge @N4L @11sanchez11 @SaveOurSonics @jrry32 @DirtyDez @LuckyNumber11 I wouldn't use a 3-4 defense. Don't think it makes sense with the Front Seven. It's a good list, though. Although, I have to say that not having Andrew Whitworth on the OL is a crime. 😂 Let me try: QB: Russell Wilson - Jared Goff or Jimmy G. HB: Chris Carson - Raheem Mostert FB: Kyle J. X WR: DeAndre Hopkins - D.K. Metcalf Z WR: Tyler Lockett - Robert Woods SL WR: Cooper Kupp - Van Jefferson (Blasphemy! But as much as I love Fitz, I think he's just about cooked) TE: George Kittle - Tyler Higbee LT: Trent Williams - Duane Brown LG: Andrew Whitworth - Laken Tomlinson OC: Weston Richburg - Austin Blythe RG: David Edwards - Daniel Brunskill (49ers fans, help me out) RT: Mike McGlinchey - Rob Havenstein Maybe I'm cheating with Whit, but he has played OG. SDE: Arik Armstead - Nick Bosa NT: Michael Brockers - Jordan Phillips UT: Aaron Donald - Jarran Reed LEO: Chandler Jones - Dee Ford WLB: Fred Warner - Isaiah Simmons MLB: Bobby Wagner - Kwon Alexander SLB: K.J. Wright - Leonard Floyd LCB: Patrick Peterson - Richard Sherman RCB: Jalen Ramsey - Troy Hill NCB: Quinton Dunbar - Shaquill Griffin FS: John Johnson III - Budda Baker SS: Jamal Adams - Taylor Rapp Although, realistically, that defense is going to spend most its time in nickel, which results in Armstead kicking inside to NT and Bosa starting at SDE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 11 hours ago, INbengalfan said: I agree with a lot of these, so i'll focus where I disagree. QB. Love the hunch, especially if true, but as of this minute, Burrow hasn't even signed his rookie contract yet, and Lamar is the reigning MVP. Ravens. WR. Hard to argue top 2, but if we are going all unit, a healthy AJ green sways this a bit with Boyd, Higgins and Ross being deeper overall. Even if Green returns to 2015 form, he and Boyd are slightly behind OBJ and Landry. The ravens room of Brown, Boykin and Snead are sneaky deep as well. Just depends on how deep you look. Push . Or two deep-Browns, 3-4 deep Ravens/Bengals LB: I'd put Dupree and Watt as OLBs, plus Bush inside. Steelers But this blows up the DE rankings, so..... DE I'd say Garrett and Vernon as the top two, followed closely by Wolfe and Campbell, but Dunlap, Lawson and Hubbard as the best three. So push between Ravens, Browns, and Bengals RET- Brandon Wilson just led the NFL in KR, plus they have Phillips and Erickson sharing duties at both KR and PR. I'll take that unit over one guy. How are Heyward and Tuitt not in contention for best DEs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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