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40 minutes ago, buno67 said:

Chubb and Hunt are better. Its not even an argument. Its the only positional group the Browns have that are truly best in the division and potentially the league

Yeah that stuck out like a sore thumb. Chubb is really really good.

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3 hours ago, Danger said:

All division team: NFC East

QB: Carson Wentz
RB: SaQuon Barkley
RB: Ezekiel Elliot
WR: Amari Cooper
WR: DeSean Jackson
WR: Terry McLaurin
TE: Dallas Goedert
TE: Zach Ertz
OT: Tyron Smith
G: Zach Martin
C : Jason Kelce
G: Brandon Brooks
OT: Lane Johnson


Defense: Nickel

DE: Chase Young/Brandon Graham
DT: Fletcher Cox/John Allen
DT: Javon Hargrave/DaRon Payne
DE: DeMarcus Lawrence/Ryan Kerrigan
LB: Jaylon Smith
LB: Leighton Vander Esch
CB: Darius Slay
CB: Chidobie Awuzie
CB: Avonte Maddox
S: HaHa Clinton-Dix
S: Landon Collins

Largely agree, with a few exceptions:

-Terry would start ahead of Desean

-Bradberry would start ahead of Awuzie

-Fuller would start ahead of Maddox

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3 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Largely agree, with a few exceptions:

-Terry would start ahead of Desean

-Bradberry would start ahead of Awuzie

-Fuller would start ahead of Maddox

Terry vs DeSean is purely semantics. The reps would ultimately be the same.

Brarberry kinda sucked last year.

I just put Maddox because he's a good fit for the slot.

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Just now, Danger said:

Terry vs DeSean is purely semantics. The reps would ultimately be the same.

How do you figure?  One would be starting over the other in run-heavy sets.

1 minute ago, Danger said:

Brarberry kinda sucked last year.

I agree he's not great, but I think Bradberry has done well enough against elite competition (Julio, MT, Evans) to prove he's better than Awuzie.

3 minutes ago, Danger said:

I just put Maddox because he's a good fit for the slot.

Fuller was elite in the slot the first time he was in Washington.  Apparently, that's where we'll be playing him this year as well.

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1 minute ago, HTTRDynasty said:

How do you figure?  One would be starting over the other in run-heavy sets.

I agree he's not great, but I think Bradberry has done well enough against elite competition (Julio, MT, Evans) to prove he's better than Awuzie.

Fuller was elite in the slot the first time he was in Washington.  Apparently, that's where we'll be playing him this year as well.

Because they'd split reps? You'd likely have Cooper in about 90% of the time. Lauren and DeSean each probably in around 70% of the time.

Sometimes you'd have McLaurin in sometimes you'd have DeSean, sometimes both. I admittedly don't know much about Fuller.

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QB Chiefs (Mahomes)

RB Chiefs (CEH)

WR Chiefs (Hill, Watkins, Hardman)

TE Chiefs (Kelce)

OL Chiefs (Fisher, Schwartz)
 

DL Chargers (Bosa, Ingram)

LB Chargers (Murray, Tranquil)

CB Chargers (Harris Jr, Heyward)

Chiefs (Mathieu, Thornhill)


K Chiefs (Butker)

P Chiefs (Townsend)


Chiefs 8

Chargers 3

Broncos N/A

Raiders N/A

 

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Just now, Danger said:

Because they'd split reps? 

Why though?  McLaurin is a better all-around WR than DJax and he's a much better blocker.  

The only thing DJax might have on McLaurin is game speed... though they both ran a 4.35 40 coming out of college and DJax is almost 34 years old now so McLaurin may be faster at this point.

I agree all 3 should be on the field as much as possible though.

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1 minute ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Why though?  McLaurin is a better all-around WR than DJax and he's a much better blocker.  

The only thing DJax might have on McLaurin is game speed... though they both ran a 4.35 40 coming out of college and DJax is almost 34 years old now so McLaurin may be faster at this point.

I agree all 3 should be on the field as much as possible though.

I think you're really underestimating DeSean. DeSean is still really damn fast and is very underrated as a route runner. 

 

I think in your 3rd and longs you're looking at DeSean/McLaurin/Ertz/Cooper/Barkley. Short yardage. Zeke comes in for Barkley and Goedert is in over Ertz.

1st and 2nd downs you're just gonna generally see a rotation of 4 out of the 5 WR/TE being in.
Roughly breaking down to-- 
Cooper: 90%
Goedert: 80%
DeSean: 80%
McLaurin: 80%
Ertz: 70% 

Get them all some good rest and keep em fresh. Zeke is the closer/goal line. Barkley the home run threat.

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On 7/27/2020 at 9:54 PM, BleedTheClock said:

Who has the best group of players in each division?

 

AFC North

 

QB: Bengals (Burrow...just a hunch)
RB: Browns (Chubb)
FB: Ravens (Ricard)
WR: Browns (OBJ/Landry)
TE: Browns (Hooper/Njoku/Bryant)
OT: Ravens (Tunsil/Brown)
OG: Steelers (DeCastro/Wisniewski)
OC: Browns (Tretter)

DE:  Steelers (Watt/Dupree)
DT: Ravens (Wolfe/Williams/Campbell) or Bengals (Atkins/Reader)
LB: All bad. I think I like the Bengals the most based on potential (Pratt/Wilson/Davis-Gaither/Bailey)
CB: Ravens (Humphery/Peters/Smith/Young)
S: Bengals (Bates/Bell)

K: Ravens (Tucker)
P: Browns (Gillan)
RET: Steelers (D. Johnson)

 

 

Browns: 5
Ravens: 4 (+1 Tie)
Steelers: 3
Bengals 2 (+ 1 tie)

God, this post is so terrible.  

All the LBs are bad?  Devin Bush is a beast, and Patrick Queen's going to be a stud.  Just because your team doesn't have any good ones doesn't mean you need to pretend that the division rivals don't have any.

And, not mentioning Minkah Fitzpatrick at safety really makes your whole post a joke.  I mean, do you hate Pittsburgh that bad?  

 

 

 

 

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QB- Jets Sam Darnold

RB- Jets Le'Veon Bell/Patriots Sony Michel

FB- Patriots Danny Vitale

WR- Bills Stefon Diggs 

WR- Dolphins Devante Parker

WR- Patriots Julian Edelman

TE- Jets Chris Herndon/Jets Ryan Griffin

OT- Patriots Marcus Cannon/Jets Mehki Becton(R)

OG- Patriots Joe Thuney/Patriots Shaq Mason/Bills Quinton Spain

C- Patriots David Andrews

EDGE- Bills Jerry Hughes

DL- Bills Ed Oliver

DL- Jets Steve McLendon

DL- Jets Foley Fatukasi

EDGE- Jets Jordan Jenkins

LB- Patriots Dont'a Hightower

LB- Jets CJ Mosley

LB- Bills Tremaine Edmunds

LB- Dolphins Jerome Baker

CB- Patriots Stephon Gilmore

CB- Dolphins Byron Jones

CB- Bills Tredavious White

FS- Patriots Devin McCourty

SS- Bills Micah Hyde

K- Bills Steven Hauschka 

P- Jets Braden Mann(R)

Patriots- 10

Bills- 8

Jets- 9

Dolphins- 3 

Come at me bros 

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2 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said:

QB- Jets Sam Darnold

I really can't bring myself to take Darnold over Josh Allen at this moment in time. Maybe I'll feel differently later in the season, but Darnold's proved nothing to me so far.

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3 minutes ago, Danger said:

I think you're really underestimating DeSean. DeSean is still really damn fast and is very underrated as a route runner. 

I mean, he did spend 3 years on the Redskins.  I feel like I know his game pretty well.  I think you're underestimating McLaurin.  After watching both him and DeSean, I can honestly say McLaurin is a far better route-runner.  He's also bigger and much more physical (both in the run game and at the catch point).  I will say though - no one in the league can track the deep ball like DeSean can.

8 minutes ago, Danger said:

1st and 2nd downs you're just gonna generally see a rotation of 4 out of the 5 WR/TE being in.
Roughly breaking down to-- 
Cooper: 90%
Goedert: 80%
DeSean: 80%
McLaurin: 80%
Ertz: 70% 

Get them all some good rest and keep em fresh. Zeke is the closer/goal line. Barkley the home run threat.

Do you feel like Goedert is better than Ertz at this point?

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Just now, HTTRDynasty said:

I mean, he did spend 3 years on the Redskins.  I feel like I know his game pretty well.  I think you're underestimating McLaurin.  After watching both him and DeSean, I can honestly say McLaurin is a far better route-runner.  He's also bigger and much more physical (both in the run game and at the catch point).  I will say though - no one in the league can track the deep ball like DeSean can.

Do you feel like Goedert is better than Ertz at this point?

Yes. Ertz is better at finding holes in the zone, but Goedert does everything else better IMO. Goedert is more similar to Travis Kelce/George Kittle.

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At least I know the NFCE All-Divison team would win against at least one other division.  That AFCE roster looks rough, excluding the secondary.

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1 minute ago, HTTRDynasty said:

At least I know the NFCE All-Divison team would win against at least one other division.  That AFCE roster looks rough, excluding the secondary.

the WR core for us looks better than it did last year, as does the secondary. Still both are relatively weak compared to other spots. We're fantastic in the trenches and have good RBs/TEs. 

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