TVScout Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 5 hours ago, CalhounLambeau said: Length of legs in relation to a players overall height. Especially applies to long shins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalhounLambeau Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, TVScout said: Especially applies to long shins. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 9:21 AM, CalhounLambeau said: Agreed. Ironically long shins is a primary factor in foot speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 ,@Aztec Hammer @Bonanza23 @MWil23 I believe we were discussing this the other day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 23 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: ,@Aztec Hammer @Bonanza23 @MWil23 I believe we were discussing this the other day... Honestly I feel like guys who are bow-legged are deal breakers. I also tend to overlook guys who don't wear knee pads. They're uncoachable divas and a lost cause at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 7 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: ,@Aztec Hammer @Bonanza23 @MWil23 I believe we were discussing this the other day... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 10/4/2017 at 2:41 PM, CalhounLambeau said: One thing people overlook - especially at runningback is body type and I preach this year after year. High-cut players get hurt more often. Every year they get hurt disproportionally more than other players. Two key examples from 2017 that are already hurt: Dalvin Cook (knee), Chris Carson (ankle). Logically, it makes sense. I'd be curious to know if there's data that supports it. I don't doubt it because those low center of gravity guys are a much smaller target and much harder to hit low, but I can think of quite a few of those guys too who have had durability issues. As for my biggest weaknesses, they are: 1. Big-bodied WRs with average height 2. Making sure a LB will play within a NFL scheme effectively and can get off blocks 3. Vision and patience for HBs (I think it's tough to scout at the college level) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 For me it is always 2 issues which I have little control over. 1) character and intangibles - we do not get to interview a prospect, nor are we always privy to character problems that scouts and GM's may know about. 2) the seriousness of injuries that a player had and how poor they do in their physicals because of it. These 2 areas are always going to limit our ability to assess prospects as we totally depend on rumours rather than knowing the facts. I would say I can visually make a real judgement call on pretty well everything else, especially during the Senior Bowl practices and the Combine, although I still depend a lot on Mayock and other NFL.com scouts to let me know how strong a QB's arm is, it is almost impossible to tell on film or TV as it always appears a lot slower than it is in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 No point in dinging guys off scuttlebutt. Just grade them off video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalhounLambeau Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Scout said: No point in dinging guys off scuttlebutt. Just grade them off video Pretty sure we should just grade players the way we want based on what we value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraftHobbyist Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 One thing I learned from experience was that deep passes for QB's are some of the least impressive throws. Unless they are on a line, deep passes really tell you almost nothing about a QB. The intermediate passes tell you the most, but I would even value short passes above deep passes because at least then you can look at ball placement. That was probably my biggest rookie mistake the first year I graded. Another one I learned the hard way is that athleticism doesn't matter as much for RB's. Whether the RB can make the first guy miss or not is the most important. Patience, vision, power, open field moves, those things are important. But are you really upset if a RB gets caught after a 40 yard gain because it's not a TD? I mean, sure, if he can take it to the house that is a benefit so it's not meaningless, but that's not what makes a RB good or bad. Lateral quickness matters much more, too, and that doesn't always show up in the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 I also have a tendency to be lenient on injured guys. I try not to crucify them for having an injury history, but sometimes it's warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 20 hours ago, CalhounLambeau said: Pretty sure we should just grade players the way we want based on what we value. no you have to do it my way or you're wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Length of shins? Length of legs in relation to overall height? This thread can’t be real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On October 8, 2017 at 1:57 PM, NateDawg said: Length of shins? Length of legs in relation to overall height? This thread can’t be real life. You must be new here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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