HolmesPriest Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Jon Gruden on his ranking... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 17 hours ago, Mr Bad Example said: Bill O'Brien - it's tough to separate "BO'B, competent NFL coach" from "BO'B, flaming dumpster fire of an NFL GM" Well... he's not a competent NFL coach if you really watch him. He's full of questionable calls, horrible clock management and poor in-game decisions. The GM stuff is bad, the coaching is just as bad. He benefitted from very bad Jacksonville and Tennessee teams through his career, has the AFCS not been a dumpster fire for the better part of the decade, he'd be fired by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 3:34 PM, Ray Reed said: Not going to rank the first year guys My list would be pretty comparable to yours. Though I think you're missing Gase on your list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 10 hours ago, ET80 said: Well... he's not a competent NFL coach if you really watch him. He's full of questionable calls, horrible clock management and poor in-game decisions. The GM stuff is bad, the coaching is just as bad. He benefitted from very bad Jacksonville and Tennessee teams through his career, has the AFCS not been a dumpster fire for the better part of the decade, he'd be fired by now. Add in Watson to the list. The number of times he has made something out of an objectively horrible play call is amazing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 hours ago, mse326 said: Add in Watson to the list. The number of times he has made something out of an objectively horrible play call is amazing. Watt, too. Early in BoB's tenure, Watt would single handedly win games. I'm convinced Watt took a 2-14 team to 9-7 in 2014. The only year that was mildly impressive from BoB is 2016, when he won a division with Brock Osweiler as QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 16 hours ago, ET80 said: Well... he's not a competent NFL coach if you really watch him. He's full of questionable calls, horrible clock management and poor in-game decisions. Maybe I was looking more for "average NFL coach." Reid is among the best, and Mike McCarthy seems like, at worst, an average NFL coach (with an elite record), and they both regularly get roasted for these 3 things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: Maybe I was looking more for "average NFL coach." I'd say he's below average, and I know I'm not the only one... People used to think he was a better GM than HC, and people might not be wrong on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Bill Belichick seems to get more credit rather than the truth that he has benefited more from Tom Brady than vice versa. It's not out of the realm of possibility that now Reid with Mahomes can do special things. The best QB Reid had before Mahomes was a slightly above average McNabb or a improved Smith. Is what Belichick did with the Browns or Giants as DC so special there should be a gap as large as many believe? What do you think Reid would have done with Brady the last 20 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Classic said: Bill Belichick seems to get more credit rather than the truth that he has benefited more from Tom Brady than vice versa. It's not out of the realm of possibility that now Reid with Mahomes can do special things. The best QB Reid had before Mahomes was a slightly above average McNabb or a improved Smith. Is what Belichick did with the Browns or Giants as DC so special there should be a gap as large as many believe? What do you think Reid would have done with Brady the last 20 years? It depends. Reid is an offensive genius. Belichick is a football genius. He could come up with ways to win that we didnt even know existed 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 18 hours ago, Classic said: Bill Belichick seems to get more credit rather than the truth that he has benefited more from Tom Brady than vice versa. It's not out of the realm of possibility that now Reid with Mahomes can do special things. The best QB Reid had before Mahomes was a slightly above average McNabb or a improved Smith. Is what Belichick did with the Browns or Giants as DC so special there should be a gap as large as many believe? What do you think Reid would have done with Brady the last 20 years? Belicheck/Brady is, at worst, a Walsh/Montana situation - I'm pretty sure either coach would've been highly successful without the QB, but neither were a no-brainer of a prospect, so while I think it's fair to say each coach lucked into the QB, I'm thinking the QB lucked into a situation perfect for their talents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1. Belichick 2. Reid 3. Harbaugh 4. Tomlin 5. Payton 6. Carrol 7. McVay 8. Shanahan 9. Rivera 10. Gruden 11. Arians 12. Zimmer 13. McDermott 14. Pederson 15. Vrabel 16. McCarthy 17. Reich 18. Flores 19. Quinn 20. LaFleur 21. Fangio 22. Kingsbury 23. Nagy 24. Lynn 25. O'Brien 26. Marrone 27. Taylor 28. Patricia 29 to 31 Stefanski, Judge, Rhule too early to tell 32. Gase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Darbsk said: 1. Belichick 2. Reid 3. Harbaugh 4. Tomlin 5. Payton 6. Carrol 7. McVay 8. Shanahan 9. Rivera 10. Gruden 11. Arians 12. Zimmer 13. McDermott 14. Pederson 15. Vrabel 16. McCarthy 17. Reich 18. Flores 19. Quinn 20. LaFleur 21. Fangio 22. Kingsbury 23. Nagy 24. Lynn 25. O'Brien 26. Marrone 27. Taylor 28. Patricia 29 to 31 Stefanski, Judge, Rhule too early to tell 32. Gase Much better list than the OP. I don’t even have to make one now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riftty Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Darbsk said: 1. Belichick 2. Reid 3. Harbaugh 4. Tomlin 5. Payton 6. Carrol 7. McVay 8. Shanahan 9. Rivera 10. Gruden 11. Arians 12. Zimmer 13. McDermott 14. Pederson 15. Vrabel 16. McCarthy 17. Reich 18. Flores 19. Quinn 20. LaFleur 21. Fangio 22. Kingsbury 23. Nagy 24. Lynn 25. O'Brien 26. Marrone 27. Taylor 28. Patricia 29 to 31 Stefanski, Judge, Rhule too early to tell 32. Gase Yeah this is pretty on point for me. Except I'd have Carrol over Payton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 16 hours ago, BayRaider said: Much better list than the OP. I don’t even have to make one now. Not sure about having Matt Lafleur in the bottom 1/3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Mr Bad Example said: Not sure about having Matt Lafleur in the bottom 1/3. I dont get that considering other young coaches getting placed higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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