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Top-10 WR cores going into the 2020 season?


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People are more focused on DeAndre Hopkins not being part of the Texans WR core... But a unit of Brandin Cooks, Will Fuller, Randall Cobb, Kenny Stills and Keke Coutee isn't bad at all.

Not sure if it's top 10 (it's not, I'm pretty sure) but I'd put this up against any unit in a relay race.

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1 hour ago, ET80 said:

People are more focused on DeAndre Hopkins not being part of the Texans WR core... But a unit of Brandin Cooks, Will Fuller, Randall Cobb, Kenny Stills and Keke Coutee isn't bad at all.

Not sure if it's top 10 (it's not, I'm pretty sure) but I'd put this up against any unit in a relay race.

They’re probably the deepest unit (which they need to be, given the health of Fuller and sometimes Cooks). But how many other squads are putting a solid #2 receiver as WR4?

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On 8/18/2020 at 11:30 AM, ET80 said:

People are more focused on DeAndre Hopkins not being part of the Texans WR core... But a unit of Brandin Cooks, Will Fuller, Randall Cobb, Kenny Stills and Keke Coutee isn't bad at all.

Not sure if it's top 10 (it's not, I'm pretty sure) but I'd put this up against any unit in a relay race.

I was just thinking that people are MASSIVELY sleeping on the Texans receiving corps. If healthy that’s a top 5 unit. Their revamped receiving corps has me just as scared of them as the Ravens.

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On 8/18/2020 at 2:30 PM, ET80 said:

People are more focused on DeAndre Hopkins not being part of the Texans WR core... But a unit of Brandin Cooks, Will Fuller, Randall Cobb, Kenny Stills and Keke Coutee isn't bad at all.

Not sure if it's top 10 (it's not, I'm pretty sure) but I'd put this up against any unit in a relay race.

There’ll all pretty much the same receiver. Injury prone deep threats...except Coutee, the injury prone slot guy. A bunch of solid guys (if healthy...huge if)...but no great WRs amongst the bunch 

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13 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said:

There’ll all pretty much the same receiver. Injury prone deep threats

I'd actually say Will Fuller has evolved into a well rounded guy on the outside. Yes, he's got impeccable speed, probably one of the top guys in the deep ball game. But in watching him the last two seasons, he's refined his route tree - especially on the outside of the hash mark, using that sideline as a buffer a lot like how Hopkins used to. 

I'll concede the injuries and will admit I haven't seen enough to judge Cooks, but Fuller does seem to be a bonafide #1 WR candidate.

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On 8/18/2020 at 2:30 PM, ET80 said:

People are more focused on DeAndre Hopkins not being part of the Texans WR core... But a unit of Brandin Cooks, Will Fuller, Randall Cobb, Kenny Stills and Keke Coutee isn't bad at all.

Not sure if it's top 10 (it's not, I'm pretty sure) but I'd put this up against any unit in a relay race.

Julio 4.38

Calvin 4.43

Gage 4.42

Zaccheaus 4.49

Rowland 4.42

Falcons are right up there if you take out the Shot-putter LaQuan Treadwell.

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On 8/21/2020 at 8:26 PM, ET80 said:

I'd actually say Will Fuller has evolved into a well rounded guy on the outside. Yes, he's got impeccable speed, probably one of the top guys in the deep ball game. But in watching him the last two seasons, he's refined his route tree - especially on the outside of the hash mark, using that sideline as a buffer a lot like how Hopkins used to. 

I'll concede the injuries and will admit I haven't seen enough to judge Cooks, but Fuller does seem to be a bonafide #1 WR candidate.

Cooks is a high-tier #2

Fuller is a mid-tier #2

Cobb is a high-tier #3

Coutee is a mid-tier #3

Stills is a low-tier #3

Y'all have a good deep group, but without a true star at the top, it's not top 10.

 

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1 minute ago, scar988 said:

Julio 4.38

Calvin 4.43

Gage 4.42

Zaccheaus 4.49

Rowland 4.42

Falcons are right up there if you take out the Shot-putter LaQuan Treadwell.

Cooks - 4.33

Fuller - 4.33

Stills - 4.38

Cobb - 4.46

Coutee - 4.43

That's three guys with sub 4.4 speed. Falcons are better at playing WR (much better) but the Texans are faster.

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On 8/21/2020 at 8:10 PM, sammymvpknight said:

There’ll all pretty much the same receiver. Injury prone deep threats...except Coutee, the injury prone slot guy. A bunch of solid guys (if healthy...huge if)...but no great WRs amongst the bunch 

I disagree there.

Cooks is a do-it-all kind of guy in the mold of a destitute man's Antonio Brown. Can align slot or outside

Fuller can go deep and intermediate on the outside, but has trouble with screen-type routes and shorter ins and outs. strictly outside

Stills is a short slant specialist who can kill it on a deep route too. Can play slot or outside.

Cobb has possession receiver qualities in the short and intermediate range at this point in their careers. Can play slot or outside

Coutee is a solid all-around slot guy, but nothing special. Strictly slot.

 

The thing with the Texans is that while they may not have 1 - 1000 yard guy this year, they might have 2 900 yard guys and a 700 yard guy.

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2 minutes ago, ET80 said:

Cooks - 4.33

Fuller - 4.33

Stills - 4.38

Cobb - 4.46

Coutee - 4.43

That's three guys with sub 4.4 speed. Falcons are better at playing WR (much better) but the Texans are faster.

I forgot Cooks and Fuller were that fast. That does make a difference. That .21 cumulative difference is probably negated some due to aging at this point, too.

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Just now, scar988 said:

I forgot Cooks and Fuller were that fast. That does make a difference. 

Both play to that speed, too - it's not just track speed, you see it play out when they're on the field.

5 minutes ago, scar988 said:

Fuller is a mid-tier #2

 

2 minutes ago, scar988 said:

Fuller can go deep and intermediate on the outside, but has trouble with screen-type routes and shorter ins and outs. strictly outside

I disagree with Fuller - in a fully healthy year, he's a low end #1. He could do what someone like Juju Smith-Schuster could do; His route tree has evolved and he's running really strong routes inside and outside the hashes, his transitions in and out of his cuts are really sharp. He doesn't round off routes anymore, he's very deliberate in his cuts and his acceleration out of his cuts is really impressive now.

He's also really improved on catching the ball, which was the biggest knock on him out of ND (and on display when guys like Osweiler or Savage was starting). Watson throws a very catchable ball, and Fuller finds a set of hands nobody knew he had. 

If he could stay healthy, I think this would be more noticable - but those soft tissue issues crush his perception. He spent his off-season with a chiropractor who realigned him and got his posture reset (he said his spine was too "upright" which impacted his lower body mechanics, apparently). Will it help? If it does and he plays a full 16+ games, everyone should see what I'm saying.

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