MSURacerDT55 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Seattle is going to have to move up if Josh Gordon comes back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZski Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Dang the Lions are getting no love. Kenny G- a true #1 that led the league in TDs last year with Stafford being hurt for 8 games. Marvin Jones Jr.- One of the better #2 Wrs in the game that is vastly underrated. Danny Amendola- One of the better pure slot WRs in the league. Marvin Hall- Deep threat that averaged like 50 yds a catch last year. Quintez Cephus- Has look fantastic in camp but probably the weakest of the WRs as he is pretty much an unknown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 6 hours ago, BZski said: Dang the Lions are getting no love. Kenny G- a true #1 that led the league in TDs last year with Stafford being hurt for 8 games. Marvin Jones Jr.- One of the better #2 Wrs in the game that is vastly underrated. Danny Amendola- One of the better pure slot WRs in the league. Marvin Hall- Deep threat that averaged like 50 yds a catch last year. Quintez Cephus- Has look fantastic in camp but probably the weakest of the WRs as he is pretty much an unknown. You lost me at Amendola. Hall and Cephus are meh as a whole. Good 4 and 5, but aren’t more than that. Amendola isn’t what he once was. He’s a low-3 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1. Corps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 17 hours ago, scar988 said: You lost me at Amendola. Hall and Cephus are meh as a whole. Good 4 and 5, but aren’t more than that. Amendola isn’t what he once was. He’s a low-3 now. I guess I'd need to see a list of all of these top tier/average 3s if 62 for 678 is low end, shell-of-his-former-self type production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 5:21 PM, BofaDeez54927 said: I guess I'd need to see a list of all of these top tier/average 3s if 62 for 678 is low end, shell-of-his-former-self type production. I guess I'd need to see the film that supports that he's anything but a volume-based guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, scar988 said: I guess I'd need to see the film that supports that he's anything but a volume-based guy. Ha, what does that even mean? Your labels, average season over the last three years: High-end 3 - 85 targets, 58 catches, 588 yards Average 3 - 38 targets, 24 catches, 294 yards Low-end 3 - 87 targets, 60 catches, 637 yards What am I missing by not watching the film? One and three produce at the same rate and two produces little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, BofaDeez54927 said: Ha, what does that even mean? Your labels, average season over the last three years: High-end 3 - 85 targets, 58 catches, 588 yards Average 3 - 38 targets, 24 catches, 294 yards Low-end 3 - 87 targets, 60 catches, 637 yards What am I missing by not watching the film? One and three produce at the same rate and two produces little. It's more projection based off film for what they will likely do in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Denver shouldn't even be in the conversation. Hamler has practiced twice in camp. Jeudy hasn't played a game yet. Tim Patrick and Desean hamilton are your run of the mill #4 and #5 guys that can't separate well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortdetroit Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 11:21 PM, scar988 said: You lost me at Amendola. Hall and Cephus are meh as a whole. Good 4 and 5, but aren’t more than that. Amendola isn’t what he once was. He’s a low-3 now. We can debate how good or not good Amendola is, but "isn't what he once was?" Amendola just one of the better years of his career last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 2:47 PM, scar988 said: Kind of a rough copy of what I would look for when ranking units. I have the top 3 weighted higher in a weighted average than the bottom 2 in a corps. Good overall corps and good overall receivers will bump teams higher. Here's how I would rank them: Obviously, some teams will rank higher and lower depending on how their rookies and everything else pans out. But this is where I would rank them right now. Duke Williams was never the Bills 4th receiver. It would be Isiah McKenzie. It'll likely be Gabriel Davis by years end with McKenzie in the 5th spot. Andre Roberts is strictly Special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 2:47 PM, scar988 said: Kind of a rough copy of what I would look for when ranking units. I have the top 3 weighted higher in a weighted average than the bottom 2 in a corps. Good overall corps and good overall receivers will bump teams higher. Here's how I would rank them: Guide for grades: 0.5 - top 10 WR in the NFL 1.0 - Solid #1 WR 1.25 - Low #1 WR 1.75 - High #2 WR/verge of jumping to low 1 2 - Solid #2 WR 2.25 - Low #2 WR 2.75 - High #3 WR 3 - Solid #3 WR 3.25 - Low #3 WR/High drafted rookies 4 - #4 guy/Low drafted rookies 5 - #5 guy/Undrafted rookies Obviously, some teams will rank higher and lower depending on how their rookies and everything else pans out. But this is where I would rank them right now. John Brown a low #2??? He just came off a 72 catch 1000 yard season... He should not be on same level as Ted Ginn Jr. Also our 4th reciever is Gabriel Davis and our 5th reciever is Isaiah McKenzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 1:47 PM, scar988 said: Kind of a rough copy of what I would look for when ranking units. I have the top 3 weighted higher in a weighted average than the bottom 2 in a corps. Good overall corps and good overall receivers will bump teams higher. Here's how I would rank them: Guide for grades: 0.5 - top 10 WR in the NFL 1.0 - Solid #1 WR 1.25 - Low #1 WR 1.75 - High #2 WR/verge of jumping to low 1 2 - Solid #2 WR 2.25 - Low #2 WR 2.75 - High #3 WR 3 - Solid #3 WR 3.25 - Low #3 WR/High drafted rookies 4 - #4 guy/Low drafted rookies 5 - #5 guy/Undrafted rookies Obviously, some teams will rank higher and lower depending on how their rookies and everything else pans out. But this is where I would rank them right now. How is Kenny Stills ranked behind Keke Coutee? Stills is the 4, Coutee is a definitive 5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 12:47 PM, scar988 said: Kind of a rough copy of what I would look for when ranking units. I have the top 3 weighted higher in a weighted average than the bottom 2 in a corps. Good overall corps and good overall receivers will bump teams higher. Here's how I would rank them: Guide for grades: 0.5 - top 10 WR in the NFL 1.0 - Solid #1 WR 1.25 - Low #1 WR 1.75 - High #2 WR/verge of jumping to low 1 2 - Solid #2 WR 2.25 - Low #2 WR 2.75 - High #3 WR 3 - Solid #3 WR 3.25 - Low #3 WR/High drafted rookies 4 - #4 guy/Low drafted rookies 5 - #5 guy/Undrafted rookies Obviously, some teams will rank higher and lower depending on how their rookies and everything else pans out. But this is where I would rank them right now. I expected LV to be super low, but the worst? I guess it boils down to the fact they have zero proven experience but I would certainly take them over some other the others based on potential alone. Starting 2 rookies and having 2nd year player Renfrow as your vet starter will make for some fun yet frustrating times, especially early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1. Tampa Bay 2. Denver 3. Los Angeles Rams 4. Cincinnati 5. Houston (deep) 6. Dallas 7. Los Angeles Chargers 8. Cleveland 9. Seattle 10. Kansas City KC has a good WR core but it is slightly overrated by fans. Mahomes and Reid are damn good. And remember, this thread is WR core only, so no Kelce factored in. Honorable Mention: New Orleans Michael Thomas is without question the best receiver in the NFL. However, Emmanuel Sanders isn’t what he use to be, he’s a slightly above average WR2. And the rest of the WRs are thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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