G08 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: They most over rated storylines of the offseason. This is what you push when you don’t actually make real change. Edited September 2, 2020 by G08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, G08 said: We heard about a focus on the run game last season. In camp and every game. Talk, talk, talk. That is all we ever have about the run game. They talk about it, still suck at it, and don’t do it. Is Ryan Nall going to tackle Nagy and take his head set during the game? Edited September 2, 2020 by WindyCity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, WindyCity said: We heard about a focus on the run game last season. In camp and every game. Talk, talk, talk. That is all we ever have about the run game. They talk about it, still suck at it, and don’t do it. Is Ryan Nall going to tackle Nagy and take his head set during the game? Did they talk about being more of a run team last season? I honestly do not recall that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, G08 said: Did they talk about being more of a run team last season? I honestly do not recall that. They talked about it in the offseason and after pretty much every game where he flat out refused to run the ball. They were not good at running the ball in 2018 either. Jordan Howard wasn't a good fit. Montgomery was going to be a better fit and more involved. Edited September 2, 2020 by WindyCity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: Glasgow is significantly better than Ifedi. Fun fact, Conklin is making the same amount as Quinn. Ok but you can't have it both ways. I recall a lot of different people (don't remember if you were included) complaining that the pass rush was lacking last season because Leonard Floyd wasn't getting the job done, and then they go and significantly upgrade over him by signing Quinn and now people are upset about that? You are also conveniently ignoring the fact that Bears would have had to take a significant cap hit to replace Massie by signing a guy like Conklin. It just wouldn't have fit unless they moved Massie to G or signed Conklin to play G, but then again you would have a whole at DE opposite Mack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Ok but you can't have it both ways. I recall a lot of different people (don't remember if you were included) complaining that the pass rush was lacking last season because Leonard Floyd wasn't getting the job done, and then they go and significantly upgrade over him by signing Quinn and now people are upset about that? You are also conveniently ignoring the fact that Bears would have had to take a significant cap hit to replace Massie by signing a guy like Conklin. It just wouldn't have fit unless they moved Massie to G or signed Conklin to play G, but then again you would have a whole at DE opposite Mack. My issue is that the offense was the issue. The defense was still good with Floyd doing nothing as a pass rusher. Sign a cheaper pass rusher and upgrade the OL. We now have a bad offense that is rolling out a mediocre QB, whoever starts, behind a mediocre OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, WindyCity said: My issue is that the offense was the issue. The defense was still good with Floyd doing nothing as a pass rusher. Sign a cheaper pass rusher and upgrade the OL. We now have a bad offense that is rolling out a mediocre QB, whoever starts, behind a mediocre OL. You seem way more concerned than Pace & Nagy who's jobs may very well be on the line. Relax man and just see how it goes lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, topwop1 said: You seem way more concerned than Pace & Nagy who's jobs may very well be on the line. Relax man and just see how it goes lol. I am tired of seeing obvious needs and weaknesses ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, WindyCity said: I am tired of seeing obvious needs and weaknesses ignored. Maybe they'll just surprise you this season. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Maybe they'll just surprise you this season. Stay tuned. They did in 2018, which means we usually have to wait till 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, WindyCity said: They did in 2018, which means we usually have to wait till 2024. It is an every 6-7 year thing for the Bears, so yeah that sounds about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 hours ago, G08 said: I’m not too inspired by the idea of “pound and pound and pound” with Nall running behind this line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 9:34 AM, abstract_thought said: They had a top 5 offense last season. They have one of the best TE and OL in the NFL. Do the Bears? Being a contender requires more than just a good defense. This Bears team simply doesn't have a contending offense. I know others have talked about 2006 before but that team had a great offensive line and running game. That's not what you said though. You said contenders don't have 40-1 odds and I showed you that it wasn't true. Let's not start moving goal posts. The 49ers had a top-10 offense last season. True. Now before the season started, did you or anyone you know really believe they would have a top-10 offense? Or hell, even top-15? Much less make it the SB? If you or ANYONE else other than blatant 49ers homer fans says "yes" to that question than they are lying their *** off because that offense was downright dreadful in 2018 and nobody with any sense of football knowledge had any hope for JG ever being anything more than average. Even on paper, that offense didn't look like a competitive unit. And yet, here we are. Like Soulman said, I don't believe for one second that we are a SB contender. But I do believe we are a 9-11 win team and anything can happen in the playoffs. Especially during what is looking to be a very crazy season with C19. If we get that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 hours ago, WindyCity said: Glasgow is significantly better than Ifedi. Based on what? Are we sure Pace didn't try to go after any other LG and they just chose another team based on other personal priorities? Or is this just based on assumptions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: That's not what you said though. You said contenders don't have 40-1 odds and I showed you that it wasn't true. Let's not start moving goal posts. The 49ers had a top-10 offense last season. True. Now before the season started, did you or anyone you know really believe they would have a top-10 offense? Or hell, even top-15? Much less make it the SB? If you or ANYONE else other than blatant 49ers homer fans says "yes" to that question than they are lying their *** off because that offense was downright dreadful in 2018 and nobody with any sense of football knowledge had any hope for JG ever being anything more than average. Even on paper, that offense didn't look like a competitive unit. And yet, here we are. Like Soulman said, I don't believe for one second that we are a SB contender. But I do believe we are a 9-11 win team and anything can happen in the playoffs. Especially during what is looking to be a very crazy season with C19. If we get that far. I think it's fair to point out the difference between an ascending team like the 49ers who were considered dark horses by analysts and national pundits and a team like the Bears which is trending in the opposite direction. Unless the Bears are making a QB upgrade like SF made, I doubt they can put together an offense that will win a Super Bowl. And that's the only contending that matters. Edited September 3, 2020 by abstract_thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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