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Final 53 Man Roster 

Offense (27)

QB (3): Carr | Mariota | Peterman

RB (4): Jacobs | Richard | Booker | Ingold

WR (6): Ruggs | Edwards | Renfrow | Agholor | Jones | Gafford

TE (4): Waller | Witten | Moreau | Carrier

OT (4): Brown | Miller | Parker | Young

OG (4): Incognito | Jackson | Good | Simpson

C (2): Hudson | James

Defense (23)

DE (5): Crosby, Ferrell, Nassib, Key, Vickers 

DT (4): Collins, Hankins, Hurst, Ross

LB (4): Littleton, Kwit, McMillian, Morrow

CB (6): Mullen, Arnette, Joyner, Robertson, Johnson, Nixon 

S (4): Abram, Harris, Heath, Leavitt

Special Teams (3)  

ST (3): Carlson, Cole, Sieg 

Practice Squad (14)

Offense (6): Nick Bowers (TE), Theo Reddick (RB), Marcell Ateman (WR), Keelan Doss (WR), Kamaal Seymour (OT), Erick Magnuson (OC)

Defense (7): Kyle Emanuel (LB), Javin White (LB), Datone Jones (DL), Madre Harper (CB), Dylan Mabin (CB), Chris Smith (DT), Jordan Brown (CB)

Special Teams (1): Dominik Eberle (K)

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Yuck.  
Peterman, Booker, Parker, Young, Vickers, Ross, Leavitt.... all players that wouldn’t make any other teams Roster.

I don’t see any major improvements outside of LB.

are we suppose to be excited after spending all that FA money and draft capital because of guys like Nassib, Collins, Kwiatkoski?  
 

if you objectively look at this team it’s one that’s likely to be ripped down and rebuilt next year... rather than one that should be adding a few pieces to put us over the top and into a list of contenders.

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I see a team still relatively early in a rebuild. Still a lot of improvements to make but has a solid foundation, especially running the ball. 

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On 9/7/2020 at 9:02 PM, RaidersAreOne said:

I see a team still relatively early in a rebuild. Still a lot of improvements to make but has a solid foundation, especially running the ball. 

This is the part I have a problem with. We have had 3 full free agencies with upwards of 150m to spend, 3 full drafts with multiple first round picks and two full playing seasons. In my humble opinion we should be more than just part way through a rebuild, its time to start producing results - now that is not to say we wont this year, I expect us to be a playoff team and I dont think that us unreasonable given the resources Mark Davis has given Gruden.

With regard the roster:

QB - Happy with Carr and think he'll gave a good year, if he's injured.......well let's not go there!

RB/FB - Great starter in Jacobs, good scat back in Richard, lacking a spell back fir Jacobs. Good FB.

WR/TE - Tons of potential at receiver though I worry the rookies may struggle at times. Renfrow will play an important role. TE is great, great receiver, great blockers, great ST.

OL - Great starters, no worries there but OT depth is worrisome. Interior depth is excellent.

DL - Expecting Ferrell to step up and The Condor is very good and still improving plus we have good rotation at DE. We're putting all our eggs in Collins basket, and DT looks suspect to me 

LB - Much, much improved. I still feel like we need a vet option as we only have 4 playable guys though. Morrow, Kwit and Littleton should be night and day against the pass.

CB - Probably the area I'm most excited about, youth, talent, speed, aggression and depth. Very, very promising.

S - All depends upon Abram, if he plays well we'll be ok, Joyner could reinforce the unit with Harris and Heath as solid backups.

 ST - Ummmm, ok I guess. Nothing special here but doesn't look like a libility.

 

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29 minutes ago, Darbsk said:

This is the part I have a problem with.

 

I totally agree with you!

Gruden now has to show something and by that I mean PO caliber team, TOP 10 O and improving D.

If we can't see that he should be let go. Obviously Mark will give him more time, but I think he shouldn't...I don't know his contract obviously, but hopefully there is a way to easily opt out...

If he and Carr can't make the next step with this OL, this feature RB, these recievers then they never will. 

One could say then, that Gruden should get a rookie QB of his choice, but nothing suggest in his coaching history that he can develope a rookie QB, so if we have to select a rookie QB and by that we have to somewhat rebuild again, then I want a new staff in town...

 

When I check this roster I see a talented group with potential, but also if a few players can't take the next step, we can easily be a well below .500 team again...

Carr, Ruggs/Edwards, Ferrell, Collins, Kwia, Mullen/Arnette, Abram...we need them to play well and look really good.

 

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7 minutes ago, Rolni said:

Gruden now has to show something and by that I mean PO caliber team, TOP 10 O and improving D.

If we can't see that he should be let go. Obviously Mark will give him more time, but I think he shouldn't...I don't know his contract obviously, but hopefully there is a way to easily opt out...

I perhaps wouldn't go quite that far as Id like to see the Gruden/Mayock axis work, I like Gruden as a coach and I like Mayock as a talent evaluator but I think if we do finish 6-10 or 7-9 or worse then Gruden should definitely be under intense pressure and on a very hot seat for '21.

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I didn't really liked Grudens hire at first. 

So far he didn't proved me wrong in my eyes and I highly doubt any coach can be successfull after he was not successfull by his 3rd season.

Show me a successfull NFL HC, who was not in the PO by his 3rd year!

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2 hours ago, Rolni said:

I didn't really liked Grudens hire at first. 

So far he didn't proved me wrong in my eyes and I highly doubt any coach can be successfull after he was not successfull by his 3rd season.

Show me a successfull NFL HC, who was not in the PO by his 3rd year!

That’s a very true statement.... never really thought about that.

I don’t see us as a playoff team until next year.... I feel we could have been but made some poor decisions this offseason.  Hopefully we can play above our talent and the young guys develop fast and next offseason we can make some additions and get back in track for the most part and be a team that can compete for a deep playoff run.

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On 9/7/2020 at 12:47 PM, jimkelly02 said:

I don’t see any major improvements outside of LB.

are we suppose to be excited after spending all that FA money and draft capital because of guys like Nassib, Collins, Kwiatkoski?  

if you objectively look at this team it’s one that’s likely to be ripped down and rebuilt next year... rather than one that should be adding a few pieces to put us over the top and into a list of contenders.

Our secondary is much younger, more athletic, and talented. We should have a better pass rush with the development of our young guys and the additions of Nassib and Collins. 

Yeah I think so. All of those guys are young and have been quality players in the NFL and should be able to contribute for us this season. 

If we had an aging roster full of washed up vets, I'd agree that it's likely to be ripped down and rebuilt next year. But we're one of the youngest teams in the league with 13 starters that are 25 or younger. How are good teams built? Through the draft. They find promising young talent, they develop it, and then add the pieces to take the next step via free agency. How is that not what are team looks? We have youth, athleticism, and talent at every level on both sides of the ball... 

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Really shocked we went with Leavitt over Randall. Randall has proved to be a quality starter, where as Leavitt has not, we could have used the experience if nothing else as we are extremely young in the secondary. 

Very disappointed in how the RB situation played out. I was not a huge fan of the Bowden pick at the time, but i gave it a chance because i seen him as a playmaker that would be moved around, not just a RB. I really wanted a RB behind Jacobs who can carry the load for a couple games should JJ go down. I wanted Hyde in FA and Moss in the draft.

The Muse pick bothered me at the time and has proven to be at the least a questionable pick. Pick 100, we should be getting a borderline starter quality depth, not a 24 year old project. 

I will say this, the Covid off-season didnt help either Bowden or Muse's transition to different positions. 

The Mariota signing sucked and he has no place on the roster, i think the FO dropped the ball on this one, we could have had Jameis at a fraction of the cost. 

 

The Good

We are light years better at LB, Littleton, Kwit and McMillan would have easily each been our best LB on the roster last year. Turning our biggest weakness into a potential strength will pay huge dividends on Defense, we are a much better defense based on the improved LB core alone, imo.

Adding Ruggs and Edwards added a bunch of speed and playmaking ability outside. We lacked speed in a real way last year, and the rookies will be dynamic with the ball in there hands. These guys will open up a lot of things and make things easier for our top returning playmakers on offense (Jacobs, Waller, Renfrow)

I believe Abram and Arnette will bring a level of toughness and play making ability in the back end. We have the potential to have a very good group of young DBs in Mullen, Arnette, Abram and even Amik. 

We are much deeper along the DL, with the addition of Collins and Nassib. Maliek has a chance to break out, and Nassib at the very least will be a rock solid 3rd DE. If Cle can make the jump in year 2 we can have a quality DL filled with young guys. Looking forward to seeing Key, and if he can come into his own and be the pass rush specialist a lot of us think he can be.

We have one of the best OL's in the league, one that will open holes and protect DC. We are still relatively young upfront.

Would have liked to bring in quality depth behind DC, if he gets here we are doomed. I have no faith in MM. Id honestly rather roll with Peterman first to see if he can at least be a decent back-up at this point. Rather than MM at 9.75m, yuck. 

Overall:

This is still a bit of a flawed roster with a ton of question marks. We are better no doubt, but i feel the FO left a lot on the table, by signing MM and drafting Bowden and Muse. 10 million plus 2 top 100 picks gone to waste THIS year, could have added 3-4 starter/quality depth with those assets. I know were not going to hit on every transaction, but those 3 left a bad taste in my mouth from the moment they took place. 

Weve also added a ton of talent, so lets not act like Mayock and Gruden are totally in over their heads. Someone mentioned we still cant bring in top FA's, thats bogus Littleton and Brown have been the two top guys at their positions, at major needs on our roster and weve been able to bring them in. Were going to have to wait and see how the rookies and 2nd year players develop, they will determine if we are successful long term or not.

All in all, we were the laughing stock of the league after the Mack and Cooper trades, now we a re a borderline playoff team in less than 2 years. I like the trajectory of the team and feel we are in far better shape long term than we were in 2016.

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28 minutes ago, Geezy said:

Weve also added a ton of talent, so lets not act like Mayock and Gruden are totally in over their heads. Someone mentioned we still cant bring in top FA's, thats bogus Littleton and Brown have been the two top guys at their positions, at major needs on our roster and weve been able to bring them in. Were going to have to wait and see how the rookies and 2nd year players develop, they will determine if we are successful long term or not.

Good teams are built through the draft. How many big name free agents have the 49ers, Patriots, or Chiefs signed the last two off-seasons?

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5 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

Good teams are built through the draft. How many big name free agents have the 49ers, Patriots, or Chiefs signed the last two off-seasons?

yea, obviously you cant build a team entirely through FA, but good teams use FA as a supplement and adding two FA at the top of their positions is huge regardless. 

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31 minutes ago, Geezy said:

This is still a bit of a flawed roster with a ton of question marks.

Without a doubt but we're in year two of a major roster overhaul. If you look at the depth chart from week 1 the first season that Gruden took over in comparison to now, we only have 4 of the same starters on offense (Carr, Miller, Hudson, Jackson) and none of the same starters on defense. 

We're going with a very sink or swim approach for sure. But at least this way we'll know what we have with our young players.

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1 minute ago, Geezy said:

yea, obviously you cant build a team entirely through FA, but good teams use FA as a supplement and adding two FA at the top of their positions is huge regardless. 

I agree. We've seen in the past how overspending in free agency has helped us build a team. You draft your core and then add the missing pieces via free agency. Brown was one of the best FA's in 2019 and Littleton was one of the best FA's in 2020 for sure. 

People are criticizing our FA haul but I like what we did. Littleton, Kwit, and Collins are all promising young players that fill positions of need and will start from day one. 

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