TVScout Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 14 hours ago, cromagnum said: He reminds me so much of John Elway. To bad the Cowboys won’t get a chance to draft him. Generational talent! Carson Wentz with an IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 No surprise as Kyle Pitts has declared for draft. Like the issues he creates match up wise, but not really interested in seeing Dallas take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: No surprise as Kyle Pitts has declared for draft. Like the issues he creates match up wise, but not really interested in seeing Dallas take him. If Schultz hadn't played decently this year and Jarwin had never shown anything I'd be okay with Pitts in a trade down if no defensive players were there....but yeah, he's going to be a weapon for whichever team drafts him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) At the moment, I think I’m on the Caleb Farley bandwagon. Surtain is probably more likely to be a good player, but Farley more likely to be an All-Pro. Edited December 20, 2020 by Nextyearfordaboyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7188 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 We now have the 9th overall pick. Not all bad. If they lose against Philly and the Giants, Dallas can move up to 6th-7th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 5 hours ago, TVScout said: Carson Wentz with an IQ. Nah this guy is on a different level. Right there with manning elway luck when they came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 hours ago, cromagnum said: ........manning elway luck when they came out. The difference between those guys and the rest is IQ, field sense, knowledge or whatever you want to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 From where the value looks to land right now... Give me a corner in round 1, linebacker round 2, safety round 3. Sign the DTs in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northland Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 17 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: At the moment, I think I’m on the Caleb Farley bandwagon. Surtain is probably more likely to be a good player, but Farley more likely to be an All-Pro. I don't follow the prospects like I used to so correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is Surtain is more polished now, but Farley has the bigger upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Sign the DTs in free agency Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Northland said: I don't follow the prospects like I used to so correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is Surtain is more polished now, but Farley has the bigger upside? That’s basically my premise, but I do think that Farley is more than just a workout warrior. He clearly has some natural instincts for the position and a nose for the ball. And he’s definitely an alpha, which our defense could use more of. I said this earlier, but he’s the CB in this draft that, if you squint, you can see some Jalen Ramsey. If you told me that a CB from this draft became one of the true elite players in the league, I’d be very confident that it’s Farley. But he still has a lot of polishing needed. On the flip side, if you told me Surtain was a bust, I’d be quite surprised. I expect he’ll be a good-to-very good player from the minute he enters the NFL. 27 minutes ago, TVScout said: Who? No idea. But moderately confident the solution to our 2021 interior DL isn’t in the 2021 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: That’s basically my premise, but I do think that Farley is more than just a workout warrior. He clearly has some natural instincts for the position and a nose for the ball. And he’s definitely an alpha, which our defense could use more of. I said this earlier, but he’s the CB in this draft that, if you squint, you can see some Jalen Ramsey. If you told me that a CB from this draft became one of the true elite players in the league, I’d be very confident that it’s Farley. But he still has a lot of polishing needed. On the flip side, if you told me Surtain was a bust, I’d be quite surprised. I expect he’ll be a good-to-very good player from the minute he enters the NFL. No idea. But moderately confident the solution to our 2021 interior DL isn’t in the 2021 draft. I actually think the bottom 1st/early second is a great spot for this years top DTs. Marvin Wilson DT FlSt, Christian Baremore DT Bama, Jaylon Tywman DT Pitt, Jay Tufele DT USC, and Tyler Shelvin 350lber from LSU... Are any of them stars? Well they aren’t really projected to be right now, but all of them have something that lets them flirt with a late first round grade, and who knows how the combine will effect this. There is no Derrick Brown prospect just yet, but all the top DTs are projected right in our 2nd pick area. If there’s one we like I could see our second pick being DT. Something like: pick 8: Patrick Surtain II, CB, Bama pick 40: Christian Baremore, DT, Bama pick 72: Chazz Surratt, LB, UNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: I actually think the bottom 1st/early second is a great spot for this years top DTs. Marvin Wilson DT FlSt, Christian Baremore DT Bama, Jaylon Tywman DT Pitt, Jay Tufele DT USC, and Tyler Shelvin 350lber from LSU... Are any of them stars? Well they aren’t really projected to be right now, but all of them have something that lets them flirt with a late first round grade, and who knows how the combine will effect this. There is no Derrick Brown prospect just yet, but all the top DTs are projected right in our 2nd pick area. If there’s one we like I could see our second pick being DT. Something like: pick 8: Patrick Surtain II, CB, Bama pick 40: Christian Baremore, DT, Bama pick 72: Chazz Surratt, LB, UNC I'm probably too early on in the process to be making declarative statements. I'm not opposed to drafting good value at DT at any point in the draft. Just my early hunch from a supply/demand/opportunity/value standpoint, defensive tackle isn't going to work out for us early in the draft this year. I will say, I am far more intrigued by a 1T/NT type at ~40 than I am a 3T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atran35 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 11:29 AM, TVScout said: Who? I'll be looking at Johnathan Hankins from the Raiders. But I think they will re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, atran35 said: I'll be looking at Johnathan Hankins from the Raiders. But I think they will re-sign him. The 1T/NT group doesn't appear to have many true studs, but quite a few very solid options. Hankins, DaQuan Jones, Lawrence Guy are set to hit the market. Mike Pennel also might be a consideration. We did our research on him last year but decided on Poe... but Pennel is a much better player than Poe at this point in their careers. Maybe they could even coax Snacks Harrison out of retirement. And they can probably land one pretty cheap if last season was any indication; the DT market for run stuffing DTs was really depressed. The player I would definitely open up the checkbook for is Leonard Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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