plan9misfit Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: Would not suck. Remember at the start of the season when Wade was considered CB1? Lol He was considered a top 5 pick! Now, he’s a mid-round FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 7 hours ago, plan9misfit said: He was considered a top 5 pick! Now, he’s a mid-round FS. I never was a fan of Wade, so not surprised he got exposed this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Whether it was his decision or he was advised by another, Wade declaring for draft was/is a terrible decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: If gallup is traded. It opens up a lot. We saw how explosive our offense was with CeeDee. No reason to not keep that up. Ideas we trade gallup for a CB. Sign a FS and DT in FA. And party with Pitts or Waddle. Agreed. But I’m mostly curious how Cowboys fans would stack Pitt, Waddle, Chase, and Smith in order of preference, if a scenario like this were to play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 13 hours ago, WizardHawk said: I don’t particularly like it, but the offensive value is far superior in this scenario. 1. Chase 2. Waddle 3. Smith 4. Pitts Can’t narrow down a 5th prospect right now, but Darrisaw, Vera-Tucker, Jaelan Phillips, and Moehrig would likely be in the mix. Push comes to shove and no trade down is available, I might....might, be willing to move #10 for future picks all together. JOK is probably my pick if I can’t take a skill position in this scenario. Is your top 4 the same for Dallas as it would be not team specific? For the Cowboys, I just think Waddle would be such a perfect fit for this offense, but in general, I think Chase is the better overall prospect. But honestly think Pitts is the best of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 A lot of these questions depend upon what happens with QB. IF we have Dak I am okay with saving salary by trading Gallup, but not if that means using 1st round or 2nd round pic on WR. That does not help us much long term and for sure hurts us short term. Again I understand the concept of best player available and agree with it. However when you go 6-8 years with adding only 5-6 quality players through the draft to your D then at some point you have to say.. BPA that is on the defensive side of the ball. I would do a happy dance for a long time if we get... even if we have to trade down at some point in the draft... Farley or Surtain or best Available CB with 3rd puc - Grant or Moehrig - McNeil or Baremore Idealy.. Surtain - Moehrig - trade up to get McNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Agreed. But I’m mostly curious how Cowboys fans would stack Pitt, Waddle, Chase, and Smith in order of preference, if a scenario like this were to play out. Smith’s size is a concern to me. He’s 175 Lbs. He’s an outstanding player, but I’d be concerned that he’ll disappear in games because of his lack of size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 16 hours ago, plan9misfit said: 10. Kyle Pitts TE Florida 46. Tyson Campbell CB Georgia 75. Jevon Holland S Oregon 99. Marlon Tuipulotu DT USC 115. Monty Rice LB Georgia 120. Shaun Wade S Ohio State 138. Chuba Hubbard RB Oklahoma State 179. Anthony Schwartz WR Auburn 194. Alaric Jackson OT Iowa 226. Jonathon Cooper EDGE Ohio State I wouldn't cry me a river over it... BUT we would have to CUT or trade Jarvin which I guess does help money wise. But the success of this draft would depend on Holland and Campbell (who I like) developing into a starter sooner rather then later. I still though would prefer just swapping Farley or Surtain for Pitts who I don't see giving us much an edge year 1 or even year 2 over what we would get from Jarvis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 OH.... and sorry for double post... BUT if you really want to TRADE a WR to save money the answer is to TRADE COOP.. who really doesn't give us his $ worth based on what we get from Gallup. Then oh yeah I can see a 2nd on a true speed WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 hours ago, quiller said: OH.... and sorry for double post... BUT if you really want to TRADE a WR to save money the answer is to TRADE COOP.. who really doesn't give us his $ worth based on what we get from Gallup. Then oh yeah I can see a 2nd on a true speed WR. 1) Trading Gallup isn’t about saving money, it’s about getting something for a player who very likely may not be a Cowboy in 2022. If you trade Cooper, then you have to pay Gallup to keep him in his place, therefore, not saving money. 2) Cooper is somehow even more under appreciated by this fanbase than Dak. Dude is such a good WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I happen to like Coop a lot, he was our over all best WR last year. But when we get to 2022-2024 the two WR's we have on our roster who I feel are the best money wise and field wise going forward are Lamb and Gallup. Just need to add a speedster Rookie to the mix. I say this because while Cooper is better are running routes at this time Gallup will continue to improve and IMO I already feel Gallup is better at making contested catches then Coop. so with all this talk about Pitts does that mean Jarvin is going to be cut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 19 hours ago, quiller said: I wouldn't cry me a river over it... BUT we would have to CUT or trade Jarvin which I guess does help money wise. But the success of this draft would depend on Holland and Campbell (who I like) developing into a starter sooner rather then later. I still though would prefer just swapping Farley or Surtain for Pitts who I don't see giving us much an edge year 1 or even year 2 over what we would get from Jarvis. Or, we keep him and make life impossible for defenses in 5-wide formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: 1) Trading Gallup isn’t about saving money, it’s about getting something for a player who very likely may not be a Cowboy in 2022. If you trade Cooper, then you have to pay Gallup to keep him in his place, therefore, not saving money. 2) Cooper is somehow even more under appreciated by this fanbase than Dak. Dude is such a good WR. The issue with Cooper is that he doesn’t play well enough on the road, but I wouldn’t dump him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atran35 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 If we could shore up some defensive weakness in FA( DT and FS ). Then I'm down with PITTS as TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, atran35 said: If we could shore up some defensive weakness in FA( DT and FS ). Then I'm down with PITTS as TE. While I agree with your point, given our lack of general interest to top free agents, I wouldn’t get my hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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