CT Cowboy Fan Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Did you study him in 2019? I didn't, so I don't know for sure. But it seems to me that Occam's Razor is he wasn't actually that great in 2019. We have prospects like him and Marvin Wilson who were highly touted before everything was really scrutinized. And the only time their tape is really getting widely picked apart is now, when people are focusing on their recent tape. People fall into this trap of thinking, "But he used to be so good! What happened?" When the reality is probably closer to the Gregory Rousseaus, Paris Fords, Jaylen Twymans of the world. Had they not gone back to school, Wade's and Wilson's tape from 2019 would be looked at more closely, and people would realize those players weren't as good as they originally thought. But instead, we view these guys as former superstars. I don't really buy it. Wade will be burnt toast in the pros, just like he was this year. Honestly I havnt studied him, just going off hearsay. But I totally get what you’re saying. This draft is going to be u like any other with player like him and Wilson who underwhelmed, players that opted out, and the one year wonder guys who shined in a short covid season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, CT Cowboy Fan said: Honestly I havnt studied him, just going off hearsay. But I totally get what you’re saying. This draft is going to be u like any other with player like him and Wilson who underwhelmed, players that opted out, and the one year wonder guys who shined in a short covid season. GIve me players who: -Opted out, but tested well athletically and their tape stood up to scrutiny; or -Thrived in the adverse 2020 environment Anyone who falls into one of those two buckets, I'm excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 I actually wonder: where does Wade go if he had opted out ala Chase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: I actually wonder: where does Wade go if he had opted out ala Chase? That’s the point of my previous post. My guess is that a close scrutiny of his 2019 tape reveals a players who was never that great of a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Jeff Cavanaugh put out his list of top 50 Dallas targets. No QBs. He’s higher on some players than I am, but I think his list is sound. https://www.audacy.com/1053thefan/sports/dallas-cowboys/cavanaughs-2021-nfl-draft-top-50-big-board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: Jeff Cavanaugh put out his list of top 50 Dallas targets. No QBs. He’s higher on some players than I am, but I think his list is sound. https://www.audacy.com/1053thefan/sports/dallas-cowboys/cavanaughs-2021-nfl-draft-top-50-big-board Can’t get on board with DeVonta Smith over Surtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 My jaw dropped when I heard that DeVonta Smith weighed in at 166 pounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Who would be your dream targets to fall to #44? I.e. who would be this year’s Trevon Diggs equivalent for you? I have a list of 5: -Greg Newsome -Jamin Davis -Trevon Moehrig -Christian Barmore -Aziz Ojulari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Who would be your dream targets to fall to #44? I.e. who would be this year’s Trevon Diggs equivalent for you? I have a list of 5: -Greg Newsome -Jamin Davis -Trevon Moehrig -Christian Barmore -Aziz Ojulari I would add to yours: Tevin Jenkins Richie Grant(Although we apparently don't like him) Kelvin Joseph Caleb Farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, SweetFancyMoses said: I would add to yours: Tevin Jenkins Richie Grant(Although we apparently don't like him) Kelvin Joseph Caleb Farley I don’t really view Tevin Jenkins as head and shoulders different than the other OTs that could be available at #44. I would love him there, but if you told me the Cowboys preferred a guy like Leatherwood, Radunz, Cosmi, Eicheberg over him, I wouldn’t be totally surprised. Richie Grant, to me, is also a base case target. Will be very happy if he’s there (along with Jevon Holland), but not a dream. Not a fan of Kelvin Joseph for this team. At all. Caleb Farley is a good add to the list. Especially if we don’t take a CB in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 If the first two days ended with this how would you feel? 1.10 - Kyle Pitts, TE 2.44 - Nick Bolton, LB 3.75 - Paulson Adebo, CB 3.99 - Tommy Togiai, DL Honestly I think any draft I come away with Pitts I am happy. The rest can be throwing stuff at the defense for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Who would be your dream targets to fall to #44? I.e. who would be this year’s Trevon Diggs equivalent for you? I have a list of 5: -Greg Newsome -Jamin Davis -Trevon Moehrig -Christian Barmore -Aziz Ojulari I think these are all pretty pie in the sky at 44, which is the spirit of the exercise of course. My list ruling out guys I think will almost definitely be gone (Ojulari, Collins, Moehrig, Newsome, Barmore)- 1. Davis 2. Onwuzurike 3. Leatherwood 4. Holland 5. Ossai HM/T-6. Eichenberg/Cosmi this also assumes CB at 10, otherwise move Stokes and Melifonwu to the top and drop everyone else a peg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, matt79511 said: I think these are all pretty pie in the sky at 44, which is the spirit of the exercise of course. My list ruling out guys I think will almost definitely be gone (Ojulari, Collins, Moehrig, Newsome, Barmore)- 1. Davis 2. Onwuzurike 3. Leatherwood 4. Holland 5. Ossai HM/T-6. Eichenberg/Cosmi this also assumes CB at 10, otherwise move Stokes and Melifonwu to the top and drop everyone else a peg Yeah, I guess what I was really looking for are the names you might actually make a modest trade up for if they tumbled into the late 30s. I do agree they are likely to be gone. I like your list a lot, though I am definitely standing pat at #44 for any of them, save Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: If the first two days ended with this how would you feel? 1.10 - Kyle Pitts, TE 2.44 - Nick Bolton, LB 3.75 - Paulson Adebo, CB 3.99 - Tommy Togiai, DL Honestly I think any draft I come away with Pitts I am happy. The rest can be throwing stuff at the defense for all I care. This would be a dream draft. But if #10 and #44 happen, I don’t think you can afford to be passive with #75. There’s a really good chance the CB board is wiped out by then. Trade up and lock in Adebo/Melifonwu/Campbell/Stokes as soon as it’s feasible. Edited April 21, 2021 by Nextyearfordaboyz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: This would be a dream draft. But if #10 and #44 happen, I don’t think you can afford to be passive with #75. There’s a really good chance the CB board is wiped out by then. Trade up and lock in Adebo/Melifonwu/Campbell/Stokes as soon as it’s feasible. I don't know how to feel about CBs anymore. It just seems like so many of them exists. I am starting to believe CBs will fall...because of the sheer volume of talent. But I am not opposed to trading up. We have a ton of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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