JetsandI Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, rickyt31 said: I'm worried about hiring an HC who sucks after losing the hot coordinator. I'm looking for that Tomlin type of coach if possible. Doesn't matter if Ben is hurt, doesn't matter if he loses coordinators, or how good the other teams are in the division, they stay competitive. He was a coordinator for one year before getting that job. So I'm trying to go into this with an open mind. It's hard. I'm really looking for leadership, examples of adapting, and consistency if possible. Steelers' system has been awesome. It is easy for Tomlin to do his job there. As for Jets. pffftt, it is tough. Whoever we hire HC he has to be 5x strength than Tomlin as green HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, JetsandI said: Steelers' system has been awesome. It is easy for Tomlin to do his job there. As for Jets. pffftt, it is tough. Whoever we hire HC he has to be 5x strength than Tomlin as green HC. Definitely have a great system, but he never dropped below .500 as a Steeler. That's amazing when you think of all the things they went through. Tomlin just went 8-8 last season with Rudolph, lost Conner during the season, and no #1 WR after Brown left. That's amazing. They were in the WC hunt until the end. Those are the things that make an HC great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: Definitely have a great system, but he never dropped below .500 as a Steeler. That's amazing when you think of all the things they went through. Tomlin just went 8-8 last season with Rudolph, lost Conner during the season, and no #1 WR after Brown left. That's amazing. They were in the WC hunt until the end. Those are the things that make an HC great. You know what that comes from right? Stability granted from ownership that does not let media/fan influence dictate their decision making while also giving their head coach and GM the ability to lead and players who do not buy in are shipped because it's about the entire team. That's all I really want, give our coach 4 years to build his program and figure things out. Get players that buy in completely and do their jobs and put the team first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, KingOfNewYork said: You know what that comes from right? Stability granted from ownership that does not let media/fan influence dictate their decision making while also giving their head coach and GM the ability to lead and players who do not buy in are shipped because it's about the entire team. That's all I really want, give our coach 4 years to build his program and figure things out. Get players that buy in completely and do their jobs and put the team first. Ownership has always screwed us up one way or another. Steelers found the right GM who can scout but also find the right coach. We've given coaches like Bowles, Ryan, Mangini, and Edwards at least 3-4 years. Timing isn't the problem. The Johnsons forcing decisions, not being able to find a GM who can draft, and Gase hurt us. Letting JD have complete control of the search is the only way we can turn things around now so he can get the guy who can work with the players he want. That Macc & Bowles search was probably handled the worst way possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: Ownership has always screwed us up one way or another. Steelers found the right GM who can scout but also find the right coach. We've given coaches like Bowles, Ryan, Mangini, and Edwards at least 3-4 years. Timing isn't the problem. The Johnsons forcing decisions, not being able to find a GM who can draft, and Gase hurt us. Letting JD have complete control of the search is the only way we can turn things around now so he can get the guy who can work with the players he want. That Macc & Bowles search was probably handled the worst way possible. They were expected to come in and win right away, we need to actually build sustainable success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, KingOfNewYork said: They were expected to come in and win right away, we need to actually build sustainable success. Just simply need to hire the right coach now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ekill08x Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Thank god its over. I cant wait to see a new looking team with HC and QB next year. These last 3 years have been so brutal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 One of the biggest mistakes this franchise has ever made. Amazing how the entire fanbase knew it from the jump. thank god it’s over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 One of the reasons I was researching Lynn. The biggest problem is that his only wins came against weak teams. I'm just not sure if that roster was supposed to win more or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: NOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBS756 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: One of the reasons I was researching Lynn. The biggest problem is that his only wins came against weak teams. I'm just not sure if that roster was supposed to win more or not. Lynn seems to be a solid coach ... but horrible in game manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, ekill08x said: Thank god its over. I cant wait to see a new looking team with HC and QB next year. These last 3 years have been so brutal. 3? Try 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, KingOfNewYork said: NOOOOOOOOO Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Gase went to sleep a loser & unemployed. Brutal business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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