NYRaider Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: uh huh so you are predicting who to win? Praying that we win obviously. But I think it should be a fun, high scoring game either way. Our defense is absolutely horrible so Baker will honestly probably have his best performance of the season on Sunday. Just have to hope that our offense has a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Praying that we win obviously. But I think it should be a fun, high scoring game either way. Our defense is absolutely horrible so Baker will honestly probably have his best performance of the season on Sunday. Just have to hope that our offense has a good day. Here’s our flow chart for the defense: Did you force a turnover? -> No -> Did Myles Garrett bail you out? -> No -> Is Andrew Sendejo off the field? -> No -> Opponent scores a TD by throwing towards Andrew Sendejo Edited October 30, 2020 by candyman93 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Somehow I’ve turned into the person defending Baker Mayfield in NFL General. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Somehow I’ve turned into the person defending Baker Mayfield in NFL General. Dont worry, after his first incomplete pass you will be a hater again. Edited October 30, 2020 by Kiwibrown 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Dont worry, after his first incomplete pass you will be a hater again. I’m absolutely a Baker critic. He’s a turnover machine, can’t read a defense, and his footwork/pocket presence is awful. But when people say he’s terrible and doesn’t have a good arm/would put Winston above him...come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, MWil23 said: I’m absolutely a Baker critic. He’s a turnover machine, can’t read a defense, and his footwork/pocket presence is awful. But when people say he’s terrible and doesn’t have a good arm/would put Winston above him...come on. His personality certainly doesnt lend to a lot of grace being given his way when things go bad. One of the interesting criticism of Baker is that he doesnt play well against good teams and destroys bad teams.There is some credence to this notion. However, vs Baltimore he has had two games, and 3 good ones. His 2nd 2019 game and 2020 fame were his bad ones. His rookie year he played very well both times vs baltimore and one of his few good games in 2019 was vs baltimore. His games vs the Bengals have actually been less consistent. This year he had a solid game and an excellent game. Last year he had an average game and terrible one. His rookie year a good game and an average one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If Baker cuts down on the interceptions or throws a ton more TDs, he’s a franchise QB. He needs to improve that TD : INT ratio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 8:11 AM, MWil23 said: I’m absolutely a Baker critic. He’s a turnover machine, can’t read a defense, and his footwork/pocket presence is awful. But when people say he’s terrible and doesn’t have a good arm/would put Winston above him...come on. If you're arguing with that VanS guy I think it's a lost cause lol. I never really understand when people knock Baker's arm talent of all things. I feel like he has more zip in the ball from 15+ yards than most NFL QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: If you're arguing with that VanS guy I think it's a lost cause lol. I never really understand when people knock Baker's arm talent of all things. I feel like he has more zip in the ball from 15+ yards than most NFL QBs Not him, it’s about 2-3 others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomas5737 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: If you're arguing with that VanS guy I think it's a lost cause lol. I never really understand when people knock Baker's arm talent of all things. I feel like he has more zip in the ball from 15+ yards than most NFL QBs. He is elite in the zip category. Like top 3 at worst. There is a lot more to QB than zip though unfortunately. He may not be able to outdistance 25 other QBs but he can outzip them. (no parking lot jokes) I believe he still has only been passed in the zip category at the combine by Allen. It was close at that. He is also tied with someone else, can't remember who. There is a reason "laser beam" is brought up so often after one of his throws. I hate the laser beam throws though because that means tight window. I would prefer he finds a wide open guy and doesn't have to fire it in there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, buno67 said: You're basically just removing his two worst games though. All other games lacked garbage time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 6:03 AM, MWil23 said: Somehow I’ve turned into the person defending Baker Mayfield in NFL General. Sounds good looking forward to when We have hooper and Chubb we are second in points scored next to KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 8:11 AM, MWil23 said: I’m absolutely a Baker critic. He’s a turnover machine, can’t read a defense, and his footwork/pocket presence is awful. But when people say he’s terrible and doesn’t have a good arm/would put Winston above him...come on. If you look at last week he read defenses, looked off the safety had good footwork and pocket presence. I think his issues are more pressure related, as with almost all QBs. If he is comfortable he has very few weaknesses. If he is uncomfortable he bails (on foot or throwing to his designed first read even if it isn't there). He isn't broken from the defensive end pressure he had last year but he was affected and it's a work in progress to reach a comfort level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I was horribly wrong about Bakers arm strength. Like not even close. His arm strength is top 5 at worst. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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