2020 Baker thread

[Kiwibrown]

3 minutes ago, bruceb said:

In pre-game Kosar said that the conditions (rain but not much wind) would be very good to throw in.

I agree, if you are 6' 5" and can read defenses, which Mayfield is not and cannot.

A number of times he progressed through his read, his pass to higgins going out was excellent, he read the defense and moved up the pocket and made an extremely difficult throw.

[buno67]

3 minutes ago, bruceb said:

In pre-game Kosar said that the conditions (rain but not much wind) would be very good to throw in.

I agree, if you are 6' 5" and can read defenses, which Mayfield is not and cannot.

Bernies career completion split in November and December is 58.5%  baker in those months is 63.5%  baker also has a better QB rating over those 2 months than Bernie  

Not like Bernie was very good at throwing it in the similar weather. 
 

so just because Bernie said doesn’t make it gospel 

[bruceb]

6 minutes ago, JDD said:

How many beers did Bernie have before the broadcast?

He doesn't drink beer.

[bruceb]

6 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

A number of times he progressed through his read, his pass to higgins going out was excellent, he read the defense and moved up the pocket and made an extremely difficult throw.

What happened on the 50% that weren't completed?

[bruceb]

5 minutes ago, buno67 said:

Bernies career completion split in November and December is 58.5%  baker in those months is 63.5%  baker also has a better QB rating over those 2 months than Bernie  

Not like Bernie was very good at throwing it in the similar weather. 
 

so just because Bernie said doesn’t make it gospel 

No, but I agree with him for two reasons:

1. A receiver knows where he is going and a DB doesn't. In sloppy conditions, advantage receiver. And,

2. A QB knows where the receiver is going. Should be advantage QB, if he sees the open receiver.

[sdrawkcab321]

11 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

A number of times he progressed through his read, his pass to higgins going out was excellent, he read the defense and moved up the pocket and made an extremely difficult throw.

The Higgins throw was a roll out. Which he’s always been good at. He needs to be better in the pocket. 

[Kiwibrown]

3 minutes ago, bruceb said:

What happened on the 50% that weren't completed?

Some missed throws in the wet which is a acceptable. 

1 dropped pass from.njoku, a number of throw aways which is a really good play compared to a sack or int. 

He throw a few tight balls and they didnt land, that happens.

[Kiwibrown]

1 minute ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

The Higgins throw was a roll out. Which he’s always been good at. He needs to be better in the pocket. 

There was another when he claimed the pocket and threw across his body which I thought was an excellent throw.

[Kiwibrown]

3 minutes ago, bruceb said:

No, but I agree with him for two reasons:

1. A receiver knows where he is going and a DB doesn't. In sloppy conditions, advantage receiver. And,

2. A QB knows where the receiver is going. Should be advantage QB, if he sees the open receiver.

The other team is still allowed to play good. 

Baker threw a pass on higgins back shoulder which was broken up, it was a decent throw an ok route and good coverage. It happens.

They also collapsed our pocket a few times and that pressured the throw and causes a miss. Sometimes it happens.

Hodge went off his route once which would have been, or could have been a  deep td.

[Kiwibrown]

In conditions like this it useful to compare Baker to the other qb, Wentz had more yards, bit baker threw the ball better imo. 

 

He was much better than watson last week and I thought he was better than carr as a thrower but not a runner. 

3 weeks in a row that he has out played the other qb. 1 is the second highest paid in the nfl, the other 2 were former mvp candidates, 2016 and 2018.

Edited November 23, 2020 by Kiwibrown

[bruceb]

12 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

1 dropped pass from.njoku

Njoku dropped it because Mayfield hung him out to dry and he got popped.

[Kiwibrown]

3 minutes ago, bruceb said:

Njoku dropped it because Mayfield hung him out to dry and he got popped.

At some point be has to man up.

[bruceb]

7 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

At some point be has to man up.

And at some point Mayfield has to be more accurate.

[bruceb]

36 minutes ago, buno67 said:

Bernies career completion split in November and December is 58.5%

Elway's career completion % = 56.9%.

And he in HOF.

Times have changed.

Comparing an 80s QB to a today QB is like comparing a land line to a mobile device.

[Kiwibrown]

11 minutes ago, bruceb said:

And at some point Mayfield has to be more accurate.

He missed a few too many today, but he also threw some absolute dots too. 

I'm happy to give him a pass on that due to the conditions. 

He is playing better than last year, he is being coached. 

Next week will be a test of his improvement, he is playing in Florida, so it should be some good weather. Though knowing our luck ot will be a cyclone or something.