PARROTHEAD Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 @naptownskinsfan @RSkinGM Check the film. It was more his accuracy getting in his way than the play not being there. He sees the first option. If theyre jammed up then he fires on the second. And check the stats on these 2. Peyton and Brady were year after year the fastest at sub 2.5 levels. Peyton his Super Bowl with the Broncos was 2.33. The year before Brady lead the league with 2.4 and also won a Super Bowl. Its a trait you nurture, not hinder. He needs to set himself and fire more accurately is the problem I see. Few passes sailed on him, few were at receivers feet. But on target the play would have been there. If completing those passes, everyone would be praising how fast his release is instead of thinking he needs to hold it longer. The plays were there to be had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 hours ago, PARROTHEAD said: He had the fastest last year to though. By a full half second over the 2nd place guy. Kirk Cousins. And the 2 were the only players under 3 seconds. He was a full second faster than near every other qb in the league. He just likes getting the ball out quick. And a full playbook worth of plays should cater to the speed he likes to get rid of the ball. Not force him to slow down. Let him do whats natural. Well, that’s just not true. 1st) Haskins had the 9th longest time to throw last year. 2nd) Kirk had the longest time to throw last year. 3rd) Haskins’ footwork/mechanics look a mess on these quick throws. It’s doing more harm than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARROTHEAD Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Well, that’s just not true. 1st) Haskins had the 9th longest time to throw last year. 2nd) Kirk had the longest time to throw last year. 3rd) Haskins’ footwork/mechanics look a mess on these quick throws. It’s doing more harm than good. Hmm. I believe I mistook a 1 week avg for a season avg. But still it remains. He can work on his mechanics and hit the accuracy. Then the speed needs be capitalized on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins212689 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, PARROTHEAD said: Hmm. I believe I mistook a 1 week avg for a season avg. But still it remains. He can work on his mechanics and hit the accuracy. Then the speed needs be capitalized on. You replace the worst LT and LG he may have time to work on his accuracy. He already has the knowledge and ability to get the ball out quick. Give protection witch increases confidence, that than can turn into more accurate throws. You can't say he's not accurate with the play of his Oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troublez Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Seems to me that everyone is over valuing the AZ Cardinals. They are an "ok" team- that took advantage of a poor Jimmy G outing. Our defense is fast - really fast - and should match up very well against the Air Raid. Don't forget that Kyler is a young QB. Take away his first two progressions and he wants to Run. JDR will exploit that and I bet he makes a bunch of mistakes and/or gets hurt. My prediction - Wash 24 Cards 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Surprised we haven't pulled an Eagles & signed WR Hakeem Butler to get some inside info on Cardinals. Not to mention he's probably an upgrade over some we have on the roster. Having him & AGG at 6'5" would give Haskins some nice red zone targets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 hours ago, turtle28 said: Can’t fix t he run game until our OL can block. Maybe its time Rivera calls Donald Penn. We should recognize that guys like Penn who have been sitting at home might need a couple weeks to get into football shape. The longer we wait.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Troublez said: Seems to me that everyone is over valuing the AZ Cardinals Washington Team. They are an "ok" team- that took advantage of a poor Jimmy G offensive line outing. Our Their defense is fast - really fast - infused with talent and should match up very well against the Air Raid inexperienced WSH offense. Don't forget that Kyler Haskins is a young QB. Take away his first two progressions and he wants to Run forces throws. JDR Vance will exploit that and I bet he makes a bunch of mistakes. My prediction - Wash Cards 24 27 Cards WFT 20 16 I did a thing cause it worked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 What about Cordy Glenn. He's only 30. Surprised he's still on the street . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1-1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Thaiphoon said: 1-1 Now cut that out !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Troublez said: Seems to me that everyone is over valuing the AZ Cardinals. They are an "ok" team- that took advantage of a poor Jimmy G outing. Our defense is fast - really fast - and should match up very well against the Air Raid. Don't forget that Kyler is a young QB. Take away his first two progressions and he wants to Run. JDR will exploit that and I bet he makes a bunch of mistakes and/or gets hurt. My prediction - Wash 24 Cards 20 I just don't see us able to contain their receivers. Hopkins is explosive, and a top 3 WR in the NFL. Fitzgerald remains one of the best route runners with the surest set of hands in the league. Christian Kirk isn't a pushover either, and is a #2 on any team in the NFL. Even if we double Hopkins, he's still going to get his. If they double McLaurin, they're able to put Patrick Peterson and Budda Baker on him, two top five guys at their positions. We're putting Ronald Darby and Troy Apke on Hopkins, both of whom got abused by the Eagles last week. I guess I am also not seeing the team speed that is going to keep up with the Air Raid either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Troublez said: Seems to me that everyone is over valuing the AZ Cardinals. They are an "ok" team- that took advantage of a poor Jimmy G outing. Our defense is fast - really fast - and should match up very well against the Air Raid. Don't forget that Kyler is a young QB. Take away his first two progressions and he wants to Run. JDR will exploit that and I bet he makes a bunch of mistakes and/or gets hurt. My prediction - Wash 24 Cards 20 Kyler rushed for 91 yards and a TD vs the 49ers, I’m not sure I want him running. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: I just don't see us able to contain their receivers. Hopkins is explosive, and a top 3 WR in the NFL. Fitzgerald remains one of the best route runners with the surest set of hands in the league. Christian Kirk isn't a pushover either, and is a #2 on any team in the NFL. Even if we double Hopkins, he's still going to get his. If they double McLaurin, they're able to put Patrick Peterson and Budda Baker on him, two top five guys at their positions. We're putting Ronald Darby and Troy Apke on Hopkins, both of whom got abused by the Eagles last week. I guess I am also not seeing the team speed that is going to keep up with the Air Raid either. Agreed. I will say while we have team speed - particularly at DB - those guys need to be in the right place to make plays. As you eluded to, Apke had a rough first game and from what I can tell Collins blew the coverage on the play where Darby got beat by Reagor, maybe not, but Collins had his eyes in the backfield while Reagor ran right past him while Darby was chasing him. Collins starts to make a move to turn around and run, but by then it’s too late. Apke & KPL got burned by Goddert for a TD mostly bc once again Apke was late to react to the throw, if Apke does his job then that pass isn’t completed. KPL got shook out of his jock by Ertz for the Eagles first TD and Apke was flat footed twice and could’ve given up two huge plays to DJax & Reagor but Wentz overshot each guy, probably because of our DL pressure. The key for us is pressure and containing Murray. The 49ers did not go a good job containing murray as he rushed for 91 yards and a TD. And, while the Cardinals OL isn’t great, their OL is better than the beat up version of the Eagles OL that we faced last week which was missing 3 starters - both OTs - and their All-Pro RG. We just have a really, really tall task infront of us on defense, if we can hold them to 24 like the 49ers did and our left side can somehow not give up more than 1 sack each to Chandler Jones and Jordan Phillips, we can win, but I just don’t see it. Edited September 17, 2020 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4209 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 20 hours ago, offbyone said: Containing murray isn't happening, I would rather focus on terrorizing him. He is going to make some plays, but we can hit him a lot and get him off his game. The key is really the offense needs to control the clock. We need to fix this running game. I agree and this is how to slow down this type of Off that is to shorten the game. The problem is the Off is its early infancy stage therefore they really are unaware of what they are capable of. We have no RG and we have a young QB. The D will have to carry this team early and often b/c it might take longer for this Off to find its rhythm. So we may have to win this way for a while. This is just the wrong time and wrong team to be playing this early in the season. Certainly looks bad on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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